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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Safetytrousers said:
The speculative 1080ti and Titan do not exist. They have not been announced by NVIDIA. They are not part of the range of GPUs NVIDIA make.
Therefore as it stands, the 1080 is top of the current range of GPUs, whatever the range may eventually be. The current range of the 10x cards is the 1070 and the 1080. The 1080 is top of that range.
If we are looking into the future the 1080 will be an obsolete card from a past generation.
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Come on, it's a 256 bit, cut down castrated version of the Pascal chip and everyone knows it.

Price should be comparable (barring inflation) to the 980 launch.
 
It doesn't matter what teir you think the 1080 is, its been priced way higher than the card its replacing sells for, so you're not getting any free speed boost from the new product...you're paying for it.
 
humbug said:
These things are smaller and cheaper to make, and yet more expensive at the consumer end.
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Why would you think the first 16nm GPU's using a new memory system would be cheaper to produce than a GPU using a 4 year old 28nm process and 6 year old memory?

More to the point, you're stating this as fact - so let's see your source. Clearly you know this for sure and aren't just making it up, so let's see where you've learned this.
 
Safetytrousers said:
I agree that the 1080 is a replacement for the 980, but as it stands that is the top of the range.
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Only because we keep getting the mid range first. In the good old days the top end came out and was priced as such. Does it now make it right to price the mid range at top end prices because they changed how they launched products.
 
X-Mikuru_Beam-X said:
Agreed, the 1080 is a high end card, and the new Titan/Ti based on GP100 will be an enthusiast card.

I think a lot of folks feel the need to put the new card down just so their noses dont get put out of joint :p
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There more than likely won't be a consumer/desktop card based on GP100, it is too HPC centric compared to previous Gx100 parts. Even once yields are at a better level the part is still expensive to make and they earn more money selling it into the HPC space.

They will more than likely have something along the lines of GP102 for high end quadro and enthusiast desktop, which will be a pure SP part.
 
I really don't understand why people are classing the 1080 as a "mid range" part, priced at £600, £500, even £400, it wouldn't be considered a mid range part. The 1070 / 970 only just about live in the mid range band.

The 1080, 980 etc... They're high end parts, except the 1080 in this case is being priced in the Luxury / Ultra end of the market.

To make better sense of it, using BMW as an example.

1070 (BMW 3-5 Series)
1080 (BMW 6-7 Series)
1080Ti / Titan (BMW M Series, fitted to the nines)
 
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Because nvidias recent releases of Ti and Titan cards mean xx70/xx80 are no longer the high end/enthusiast. It's a whip they've made for their own backs, they released a higher tier which pushed the xx70/xx80 into mid tier.
 
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sprite- said:
I really don't understand why people are classing the 1080 as a "mid range" part, priced at £600, £500, even £400, it wouldn't be considered a mid range part. The 1070 / 970 only just about live in the mid range band.

The 1080, 980 etc... They're high end parts, except the 1080 in this case is being priced in the Luxury / Ultra end of the market.

To make better sense of it...

970 (BMW 3 Series)
980 (BMW 5 Series)
1080 (BMW 6/7 Series)
1080Ti / Titan (BMW M Series)
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It's not pretty sure the people who say it are just baiting.

I mean we don't even know a 1080TI is coming sure it's likely but who knows nvidia might have something else planned wouldn't be the first time they changed it up.
 
TwsT said:
It's not pretty sure the people who say it are just baiting.

I mean we don't even know a 1080TI is coming sure it's likely but who knows nvidia might have something else planned wouldn't be the first time they changed it up.
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Seems that way. I'm not sure why they bait though, they just make themselves look silly. I don't see people get frustrated on here.

I think with some certainty we can predict a Ti / Titan part that sits above the 1080. Again though, that'll sit at the Ultra / Luxury end of the market.
 
Just sold my GTX 980 Ti for 520€. Not a bad deal considering new ones go for around 590€. Now let's wait and see what those custom cards bring (and hopefully at a better price point than the reference edition).
 
I think what these people who say these cards are low or mid end want you to think they have more money than sense.

The truth being they don't have much of either.
 
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