Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[robfosters]

Spanish, Italian and Greek stocks are down ~12%, could signal a total crash if we drag this out.

Bringing down Europe with a vote.

Talk about the pen being mightier than the sword.

 

[Raikiri]

You do know that not having a degree isn't the same as being uneducated, and you're not very intelligent for generalising people in the way you are

I never said it did, I just pointed out that statistically those with a lower level of education were more likely to vote leave.

I don't have a degree either, I'm also not generalising. To generalise you have to draw a conclusion from specific cases, not from 72% of the populous.

 

[Sagalout]

That's not true. Switzerland is about to put controls on EU migration, they will be able to continue to trade with the EU. Canada is about to sign a free trade deal with the EU that doesn't include free movement. We can always ask to be in the EEA with controls on free movement - worst they can do is say no.

I don't think Canada is a good example. Have you looked at CETA?

 

[RoboCod]

Spanish, Italian and Greek stocks are down ~12%, could signal a total crash if we drag this out.

Doesn't matter, "we got are country bk"

 

[Steedie]

Come back with your gloating when project fantasy has actually achieved something other than plunging our currency and economy into a short term depression, I won't hold my breath too long though because I get the feeling it'll be a long old wait

I'll definitely continue gloating when you're proved wrong

 

[Raymond Lin]

I'll definitely continue gloating when you're proved wrong

Until the stock market recovers, not sure why you are so happy.

Until then, I am still very concerned.

 

[Kenai]

This is arrogance...On a grand scale.

No, grand scale arrogance is thinking we are bigger and more important than the EU and they will bend to our will, granting us wonderful exit deals with zero consequence

 

[davewhite04]

I really don't get this logic from remainers. It's effectively accepting the EU is like the mafia, and if you leave you're going to get your knee caps fractured, so that means you should stay. Sounds like a great club. Even though a lot of other members want out too.

The club is broken, and needs to change for good. Staying in it for fear of being punished is twisted logic.

+10

 

[Amp34]

Let's be fair, the remain was:

* World War 3 will begin
* You are racists
* You will lose your jobs
* You will lose your homes

Maybe if both parties came up with some intelligent facts then it might have been different. Truth is, it's change and no one is sure what will happen.

Problem is there was "intelligent facts" to back up all the misrepresented (by yourself) information. The problem was many leavers didn't want to listen to "experts", rather showmen politicians like Farage.

Heck even me of the main commentators on the election night coverage stated he was ignoring the experts, to Dimblebys absolute amazement.

 

[Mulder]

You might think we are in control but the EU holds more cards than we do when it comes to any deals.

They just lost their second biggest economy, I would say a lot of that is down to how they've behaved. Many more people in Europe want out too, they want a trade focused friendly cooperation agreement between sovereign states, not a single Government with no accountability. The Eurozone is in crises, the Euro is heading for failure, and Eurozone stocks are down a lot more than UK stocks following the vote.

Any remaining "control" the EU has is diminishing. It needs to change, and change for good.

 

[wildman]

Junkers position is not iron clad within the EU, we shall see where this goes over the coming months/years.

There will be no reforms on freedom of movement, it is the corner stone on which the entire premise of the EU was built. So we can wait as long as we like, but come october when there is a new PM / Government in place and Article 50 gets activated we have 2 years before the party is over.

Then we have the choice of taking an EEA membership or trying to go WTO route. EEA would be easiest as the framework for that is already in place for the UK, but then it means the new PM would effectively be telling all the brexiters they were lied to as it means still having to pay the EU, plus accepting free movement in order to secure free trade.

The EU will see to it that it preserves it's core beliefs of free movement upon which it was built and while some industries in Germany are going to feel some pain they will have the ECB greasing them all the way to the bank to ease that pain while the UK is left to take a look at itself and wonder where it all went wrong.

This hasn't even started yet and leave camp is already diluting the message they pumped into the public in order to garner support. The only way this is not going to happen is if the EU does not ratify UK's request to leave, because even that needs to be voted on.

 

[Buckster]

considering what people said about job prospects improving Brexit wise

http://news.sky.com/story/1717499/tata-steel-bidders-get-cold-feet-over-brexit

oh dear !

 

[davewhite04]

Bringing down Europe with a vote.

Talk about the pen being mightier than the sword.

Or the pencil

 

[easyrider]

Maybe the EU will actually accept it has to reform when a few other countries want a referendum as well. Then we can create something worth joining with a constitution that limits it's powers to being about trade.

This was the fundamental start of the EU

Steel trading..

Its just that Brussels got greedy and wanted to dominate their superstate.

The EU is now an ugly mess....Based on ransom, greed and corruption of power.

I congratulate anyone who voted leave because i'm tired of being butt ******* by the Germans

 

[UTmaniac]

As marches are being planned in London and elsewhere to try and overturn the vote obviously counter ones will want to confront them so we could be having a bit of civil unrest quite soon.

The time to be heard was Thursday just gone.

 

[Sankari]

You are nothing to me. I don't respect your opinion on anything. You can't play guitar and are nothing but all the gear and no idea.

 

[John40]

I'd go to a protest march in London

I would definitely go to a counter march so we could be fighting each other soon.

 

[Raymond Lin]

They just lost their second biggest economy, I would say a lot of that is down to how they've behaved. Many more people in Europe want out too, they want a trade focused friendly cooperation agreement between sovereign states, not a single Government with no accountability. The Eurozone is in crises, the Euro is heading for failure, and Eurozone stocks are down a lot more than UK stocks following the vote.

Any remaining "control" the EU has is diminishing. It needs to change, and change for good.

And they will change, without any input from us and they might prosperous, without us in it.

I want to be optimistic but I need more than this, more than just "we did fine before the EU" "British spirit" etc.

 

[Steedie]

I would definitely go to a counter march so we could be fighting each other soon.

Fite him irl u uneducated hooligan

 

[Buckster]

I would definitely go to a counter march so we could be fighting each other soon.

ooooooh

wonder how many people would turn up for a protest march in London ?

i'm thinking a lot ...