Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

How did you vote in the EU Referendum?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 861 53.0%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 763 47.0%
  • Total voters
    1,624
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Concrete said:
I have one, possibly a big one.

That the UK public now understand that politics can achieve stuff, that if they engage they can better their position. Hopefully people will become more involved in grass roots politics as a way of improving their lot rather than passively be told what to do.
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I think that's an optimistic interpretation of a vote that a large number of people used as a protest about their current situation. The bar for political engagement is a bit higher than "cast a vote".
 
datalol-jack said:
Probably after someone tells Leave and Bremain what we are going to be getting after two years of talks. Be it EEA, EFTA, custom deal or WTO. Few can let go whilst the country's future is in the air.
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That'll be decided after two years though. The two years maximum is to figure how the UK untangles itself from the EU. Then trade negotiations start.
 
FARGO said:
I should preface this by stating that I know that the way things were, up until this point, by no means perfect and that I am not as old or experienced as many members of this forum (and indeed, country).

I voted remain as I felt that I'd rather deal with status-quo, as I always have , than choose something which I was even more unsure about. Those who voted, voted what they thought was right and regardless of me not sharing their vote, I understand that.

What has completely winded me is that I had NO idea that SO many people feel the way they do. Again, I'm not actively 'political' and certainly not aware of everything going on elsewhere in the UK and Europe but I am so very surprised as how the referendum has turned out.

Here's hoping that this becomes an opportunity for something different but positive in the long-term for future generations.
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What saddens me is that i see the popularity of the leave vote as a regression towards nationalistic, reclusive behavior which in the context of prolonged peace and relative prosperity, is a dangerous thing.

The work towards peaceful globalisation got a bit difficult so we have just decided we can't face it and instead of actively being a major part of it and helping to make it work to the benefit of the whole world we have rather selfishly cut ourselves out and potentially broken up the United Kingdom as well as a result.

The leave campaign did a very clever job of using all the proud nationalistic soundbites and phrases they could which have obviously resonated with a huge amount of people. The vast majority won't have researched any of this or actually looked into the ramifications of voting to leave. They just saw the leave campaign exclaiming our country was under threat and that we were not in control and perhaps understandably voted to leave. National pride is a powerful thing once ignited.

I don't think people who voted leave are racist at all, i think though that a huge amount got caught up in a sort of perverse nationalistic furore and didn't really understand what advantages there were in leaving, if any, other than "we got our country back".
 
Mauller said:
The 23rd was a true day of democracy for the uk, more democratic than any election for the past twenty years.
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If the last 5 general elections had been properly proportionally democratic we'd never have gotten to this point as there is no way there would've been a conservative majority government. Democracy when it suits you is not democracy. I'm pleased btw that this referendum will at least show people that there is a fairer way to elect government and also to remind people that we have a civic duty to get involved and try to bold our leaders to account when they tell giant sized lies (or extremely clever semantic blags)
 
Acme said:
The whole point is that the decision is not final, otherwise people would be bickering less I imagine. There is still an opportunity for this to swing the other way. :)

But I do agree that the hateful behaviour needs to stop, and I apologise for my part in it...
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What, by ignoring the democratic will of the people? I thought we lived in a Western democracy, not some tinpot African or South American dictatorship.
 
Robbo said:
Do any Remain voters actually think there are some positives to leaving the EU? Surely you can't think it's all negative?
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I think everything about the decision is negative, and I haven't actually seen anything that even indicates there's anything that might be positive. Happy to see it if anyone has anything.

The fact that we got more people into the booths is the only positive I can see. I just hope the result doesn't put people off again and we keep increasing the number of voters.
 
Mauller said:
To be honest, i think the leave side would have turned around and been: 'okay fair enough, the country stays, but we warned you etc.'

Then the remain side would have still belittle the leavers but with less vitriol as they are now.

Leavers would have been disappointed and a little miffed but we would have carried on like any other day of being in the EU. It was just the point that the peoploe calling themselves the 'educated' are showing their true colours now.
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HAHAHA! No it wouldn't. It would have been a stream of TRAITOR comments and then the same kind of vitriol from the leave lot.

I'm already so fed up of the whole damn thing.
 
Buckster said:
So how do they vote then ?

On what they were elected on ?

On the result of their area ?

On their own beliefs ?
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This isn't like capital punishment for example, so most expect the MPs to simply rubber-stamp our departure or make things difficult only until a more favourable deal, say one with freedom of movement but the most direct access to the single market is extracted out of whoever is in government. Don't forget also that Conservatives hold a slim majority and are expected to vote as one on this under a triple whip. A new leader will also try to get them on board to ensure other legislation gets through. They won't war forever.

Voting down our departure entirely would arm the far-right in this country and create more divisions than it would fix, in my opinion. I suggest that all unhappy with the result get involved in politics proper (my activity nearly cost me my job, and I fought till the bitter end before anyone asks), and stop posting nonsense on social media and forum groups expecting it to change anything -- it does not.
 
Goksly said:
they didn't say that did they? £350b is what we give gross, £200b net... and we can give that to NHS, vat, what ever we want. Obviously it will need to go to farmers and other investments. No one ever said the full 350 would go on the NHS.
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Yes they did. this says to me the whole 350m which doesn't exist anyway.....

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pepsilol said:
It's reasonable to have two referendums. Surely it's not an issue for leavers as they will just win again?
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What if the second referendum is more of a remain win than lose? Then it's 1-1 and then what? There would be no chance of a second vote if remain had won, there shouldn't be another now.
 
Concrete said:
I have one, possibly a big one.

That the UK public now understand that politics can achieve stuff, that if they engage they can better their position. Hopefully people will become more involved in grass roots politics as a way of improving their lot rather than passively be told what to do.
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Sadly I think it's entirely the opposite all this vote shows is that a large number of people can be motivated to vote on a single issue and that fear, hatred and anger will bring people to the polls.
 
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