Poll: The Official OcUK EU Referendum Exit poll (and results discussion thread)

[Six6siX]

All these councils that now want their funding guaranteed should really have been actively telling people living there what the EU actually does for them. To have a majority leave vote and then be all like "oh but we still want all the moneys, kthx" is laughable.

I simply cannot see that being a priority the way things stand.

 

[Buckster]

Indeed, others haven't but I stay hopeful that the minority are spoiling it for the majority and most of us are being rational

I don't think that is the case

out of the remain voters I know - of variety of ages - some on social media - some not at all

the common theme is mighty annoyed

 

[TechMinerUK]

Let's be honest. If there's any money left, it's staying in London. The north and Wales will suffer.

In "The North" we're still waiting to become a powerhouse. We still get that right

 

[uk_unbeliever]

You cease to live in a democracy when you remove the right to vote from a demographic for whatever reason.

Agree, but what if you give some people a vote knowing that the system means it is pointless in terms of making any difference to the final outcome i.e. our current domestic system

 

[Concrete]

Seen two better petitions: one asking politicians to keep us in the EEA and one asking Johnson and Gove to keep to their pledge of giving £350 million extra a week to the NHS.

One petition more realistic than the current and one less realistic.

 

[delta0]

So what is the plan? What are we getting on with? There is a plan right?

That comes with the new leader. However I think this will be the order of events:
New PM is voted in by parliament.
Then there is a general election.
After this they initiate article 50 presenting a comprehensive plan at the same time.
The negotiation begins.
The UK and EU quickly agree on a few things they have in common such as trade.
They then begin to work through the rest.
The UK ends up completely outside the EU or in some form of associated partnership which the Germans have already said the UK should become.

I think an associated partnership position is most likely and this will be focused on trade. The rest we will have to wait and see.

 

[Buckster]

Let's be honest. If there's any money left, it's staying in London. The north and Wales will suffer.

yup

if it wasn't so serious it would be quite amusing

 

[TechMinerUK]

I don't think that is the case
out of the remain voters I know - of variety of ages - some on social media - some not at all
the common theme is mighty annoyed

Yes, annoyed but accepting in that what's done is done and we need to focus on working to sculpt the future. Not insulting each other as that benefits no one and just creates un-neccesary conflict

 

[Buckster]

That comes with the new leader. However I think this will be the order of events:
New PM is voted in by parliament.
Then there is a general election.
After this they initiate article 50 presenting a comprehensive plan at the same time.
The negotiation begins.
The UK and EU quickly agree on a few things they have in common such as trade.
They then begin to work through the rest.
The UK ends up completely outside the EU or in some form of associated partnership which the Germans have already said the UK should become.

I think an associated partnership position is most likely and this will be focused on trade. The rest we will have to wait and see.

what happens if there is a Pro-EU party

and they win the GE ?

 

[One More Solo]

May have been previously posted, but Farage stated he would have wanted a second vote had there been a narrow Remain win. Thoughts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

 

[Fuzz]

Excellent charts, show a good representation of how leave won, fairer and squarer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

 

[TechMinerUK]

what happens if there is a Pro-EU party
and they win the GE ?

I too wondered on this as it introduces a lack of consistency

 

[Buckster]

Yes, annoyed but accepting in that what's done is done and we need to focus on working to sculpt the future. Not insulting each other as that benefits no one and just creates un-neccesary conflict

I've not got that feeling

I think annoyed AND not accepting the decision has completely been made

why would you not stand up for something that could effect you for 20+ years

its not like buying a 1080 and finding and you've lost the silicon lottery

 

[delta0]

Seen two better petitions: one asking politicians to keep us in the EEA and one asking Johnson and Gove to keep to their pledge of giving £350 million extra a week to the NHS.

What is the link to the EEA petition?

 

[Buckster]

I too wondered on this as it introduces a lack of consistency

then Article 50 doesn't get en-acted

GE would be that parties mandate

 

[Destination]

Indeed, Proportional representation is a must for any democracy. And the house of lords needs scrapping or its members need to be voted in.

The role of the second house is to stop the lower house passing stupid ass laws in haste or kneejerk reactions.
As soon as we make that house elected, it loses the ability to perform its role.

Better just scrap it completely if you want change, rather than pay for two sets of the same thing.

 

[TechMinerUK]

I've not got that feeling
I think annoyed AND not accepting the decision has completely been made
why would you not stand up for something that could effect you for 20+ years
its not like buying a 1080 and finding and you've lost the silicon lottery

I know but surely we need to look at the bigger picture in that flip flopping and asking for more referendums wont improve our position or make the EU like us any more than they currently do

 

[darkgen]

Excellent charts, show a good representation of how leave won, fairer and squarer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36616028

How do they work out the vote by age statistic?

 

[Robbo]

From the guardians comments section:

*snip*

Interesting, assuming it's all accurate.

The problem is, if we do an about-turn now, the EU will forever hold us in contempt, so we're stuffed either way.

 

[TechMinerUK]

then Article 50 doesn't get en-acted
GE would be that parties mandate

Surely that would tick off Jean Claude though