The official Philips BDM4065UC thread

UberTiger said:
Darn those business customers that will pay top dollar and pop it on expenses :(

Business is business though I guess!

Not sure I can wait until March....bring on the competition from LG, AOC, Dell, etc..
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Honesty trumps all imo.
In fact it's refreshing for a business that exists to make profit being honest that it's a business that exists to make profit and not pretend it's doing it "for the people"! As is the case so often with gaming related products especially. :)
 
I'm running SLI MSI 970s, and my desk is 75cm deep x 150cm wide. Still can't work out if 40" is going to be way too big, or whether I'm going to be sucked in for gaming and be able to effectively run dual or triple windows for productivity. Tough one, as I don't know of anyone who uses a 40" monitor on a desk...
 
Smurfin said:
I'm running SLI MSI 970s, and my desk is 75cm deep x 150cm wide. Still can't work out if 40" is going to be way too big, or whether I'm going to be sucked in for gaming and be able to effectively run dual or triple windows for productivity. Tough one, as I don't know of anyone who uses a 40" monitor on a desk...
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40 inches isn't "that" big really. Have a 30 inch dell here sitting ridiculously close through choice no problem.
Having said that I don't play twitch shooters ;)

75cm taking into account that the monitor is going to be 10cm or so deep is more than enough to be flexible in terms of not getting that feeling of not being able to see the corners without moving your head etc.

Monitor would need to be 50 inches+ to cause a problem imo.
 
The thing is, I keep reading reports of the ultra wides saying that they are so much more immersive. There again...40" is pretty fov filling so will be immersive just in terms of sheer scale!

The other thing I was considering was games which do not scale well in SLI. In those cases, I'm wondering how this monitor would look scaling down to 1440p?
 
I used to run dual 1080p 40" TVs for gaming (Samsung C750 3d ones).

Was not an issue sitting close to them, was incredibly immersive, pixel density made me switch back to my 30" dell.

These would solve those issues, I just don't know if I could leave 144hz and gsync behind.

Anyone unsure if 40" is too big so close up, just buy one, you'll love it.
 
Guys asking for competitors, or to email competitors links is against the rules

I've edited out such rule breakage, but any further breakage of our rules will result in holidays, you've have been warned!
 
dangermouse425 said:
40" seems crazy big, how far away do you guys sit from your screens?
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It should be ok. I'm currently using a 32" 1080p TV at about 2.5-3 feet. It's fine for gaming, and I don't imagine 40" will be much different.

I'd like to know what 1080p and 1440p scaling looks like on these.
 
caff said:
I'd like to know what 1080p and 1440p scaling looks like on these.
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I don't care for 1080p, but I'm really interested to see what 1440p scales like; I'm sure I've read somewhere that 4k panels don't downscale nicely, but I've not heard that from someone who actuallys owns one!
 
dangermouse425 said:
40" seems crazy big, how far away do you guys sit from your screens?
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My old setup with a 27" WQHD monitor has the screen wall mounted, resulting in the front of the bezel being 12cm away from the wall. This could probably be a bit less using a lower profile vesa mount.

The desk it itself is 70cm deep, with an additional 3.5cm gap to the wall.

Sitting comfortably at the desk this results in my eyes being about 90cm away from the front of the screen. I feel if that same monitor was scaled up to 40" at the same pixel density it would still be a good distance to be sat away from the screen, and not be too overpowering.
 
Smurfin said:
I don't care for 1080p, but I'm really interested to see what 1440p scales like; I'm sure I've read somewhere that 4k panels don't downscale nicely, but I've not heard that from someone who actuallys owns one!
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This is an SST display so it will work the same as any old LCD of years past - no dodgy multi tile rubbish and not supporting non native res etc.

Nothing to worry about and a lot to be happy about in that respect.

EDIT - Just to be clear this has been confirmed by a respected-ish website but don't take as gospel just yet ;)
 
Smurfin said:
Can you explain that one please? :)
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MST = Multi-Stream-Transport
SST = Single-Stream-Transport

All conventional displays use SST, 4K 1st gen nearly all use MST. MST means that the image is sent as 2 seperate images to the monitor, which then stitches them together using 2 independent scalres. This is because scalers weren't available for the resolution and refresh rate required. Now they are available widespread and MST will die over the coming months.

MST is the cause for 4K displays not displaying the image properly when outputting non-native resolution, the weird bugs that lots of 4K displays have such as refusing to come out of sleep, garbled bios screens etc.
 
Thanks :)

Are you suggesting that this should scale well to 1440p?

What puts me off 4k currently is if a game doesn't support SLI (or doesn't like it!), then I'm crippled with a single GPU (I run SLI 970s). But if I could downscale effectively to 1440p then my problems go away :)
 
hernaldo said:
This is an SST display so it will work the same as any old LCD of years past - no dodgy multi tile rubbish and not supporting non native res etc.

Nothing to worry about and a lot to be happy about in that respect.

EDIT - Just to be clear this has been confirmed by a respected-ish website but don't take as gospel just yet ;)
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Highly respected you mean. ;) Especially on these lovely forums. :)

But indeed, the Philips engineer who confirmed this has been wrong in the past.

Smurfin said:
Thanks :)

Are you suggesting that this should scale well to 1440p?

What puts me off 4k currently is if a game doesn't support SLI (or doesn't like it!), then I'm crippled with a single GPU (I run SLI 970s). But if I could downscale effectively to 1440p then my problems go away :)
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SST or MST has nothing to do with the interpolation performance of a monitor. I will be one of the first people to properly review this monitor and will of course look at how it handles such resolutions. I don't have any 40" WQHD monitors for reference (they don't exist) so it will be tricky to assess.
 
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