Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

[Armageus]

Ok why the sad faces? @Armageus @Noxia

The irony is not lost on me, but I don't get on well with cartoons for some reason.

I'm not sure what it is, but it's almost ruined a couple of things for me (e.g. took me two or three goes to actually force myself to watch Star Wars Clone wars and Rebels)

 

[chrcoluk]

What annual cost is this? I'm using a PS5 controller on my PC for 3 years.
I'm also pretty certain they are usually on offer somewhere for 50 or less.

The PS5 controllers have a high drift failure rate, and only a 1 year warranty.

Looking at price history, they usually only on offer during summer and black friday, far less often than Xbox controllers, and the RRP is £67, with the rain forest subsidising it down to £60. There is also a price increase on the way that hasnt hit the UK yet. (The £67 might be the new permanent price). I have been waiting nearly a year for a sale on them, I was checking every week, but then in June forgot for a couple of weeks so missed that very short sale which is really annoying now a price bump is coming. So black Friday might not drop to £45 now.

 

[Scort]

The PS5 controllers have a high drift failure rate, and only a 1 year warranty.

This is something I can attest to - had three pads develop stock drift since getting a PS5 in November 2020.

The pad that came with the console developed it in one stick at about the 10 month mark - sent to Sony, so I got a black pad too ride me over, that lasted maybe over a year before getting sick drift, and then the pad returned from Sony got drift in both sticks!

I have 2 pads out of warranty sat in a drawer, and a new one a few months old

 

[Andybtsn]

You’d have been wise to buy the (over priced) DS Edge, benefit from the additional features but also have the option of replacing the analogue sticks as and when drift occurs.

 

[Mobius 1]

Never had a Sony pad drift.

My switch however. All the pads now drift. Super annoying while trying to play a card game like balatro

 

[Noxia]

Yeah, I don't know how there is such a wide disparity, but without knowing the exact amount of hours on all of these pads, it's impossible to speculate really.

 

[Ayahuasca]

You’d have been wise to buy the (over priced) DS Edge, benefit from the additional features but also have the option of replacing the analogue sticks as and when drift occurs.

£200 for a controller though is mental.

The stick drift issue with the standard one is almost like it's one of those known problems that's not worth them fixing. After a year you have to go out and buy a new one or, as you said, the overpriced edge.

 

[t2na]

You’d have been wise to buy the (over priced) DS Edge, benefit from the additional features but also have the option of replacing the analogue sticks as and when drift occurs.

I have the Edge and really like it - but the price is pretty insane.

I can't remember who exactly it was but someone on these forums posted when PS Direct was having an accessories sale and they'd mis-applied the sale rules so I got 3 of the extra analogue sticks for 9.99 each compared to the usual 24.99!

I've only had to swap my right stick so far (and still have 2 spares) but it's been really useful knowing I don't really have to worry about stick drift - and especially as the Edge is the controller is use 95% of the time on both PC and PS5.

They recently made available a PC app for the Dualsense as well so I can customise button mappings etc. all on PC without having to do it on my PS5 first.

It's definitely overpriced but it has been really great since owning it (Over 18 months now? Arrived with me in Jan 2023)

 

[Andybtsn]

I have the Edge and really like it - but the price is pretty insane.

I can't remember who exactly it was but someone on these forums posted when PS Direct was having an accessories sale and they'd mis-applied the sale rules so I got 3 of the extra analogue sticks for 9.99 each compared to the usual 24.99!

I've only had to swap my right stick so far (and still have 2 spares) but it's been really useful knowing I don't really have to worry about stick drift - and especially as the Edge is the controller is use 95% of the time on both PC and PS5.

They recently made available a PC app for the Dualsense as well so I can customise button mappings etc. all on PC without having to do it on my PS5 first.

It's definitely overpriced but it has been really great since owning it (Over 18 months now? Arrived with me in Jan 2023)

Same here. I got the edge when it was £150, it might still be? It actually made me enjoy COD again, I can’t even use a standard controller on that game anymore.

I also bought the thumb sticks when they were that cheap. I’m get to use them and have had the controller over a year now!

I still think it was a superb time for Sony to bundle it in with the Pro.

 

[Manbatius]

Hang on... is this really 30 terfalops? so like... a regular 4070?
Just paired with an aged CPU

That is a significant bump on our GPU hierarchy thread if the case above the series X.
The stand and lack of disk drive still make it poor value I think.

 

[t2na]

Hang on... is this really 30 terfalops? so like... a regular 4070?
Just paired with an aged CPU

That is a significant bump on our GPU hierarchy thread if the case above the series X.
The stand and lack of disk drive still make it poor value I think.

Yeah, Rich from Digital Foundry has said that it's closest GPU match will be the 4070 - and if PSSR is close to DLSS then it feels viable to compare it to a 4070.

It is such a shame they didn't do anything with the CPU - but I guess they want to save that sort of chunky improvement for the PS6 in a few years time. By that point they might be able to potentially make use of a more efficient Zen 5 chip with 3D vcache.

 

[Armageus]

Hang on... is this really 30 terfalops? so like... a regular 4070?

Yeah, Rich from Digital Foundry has said that it's closest GPU match will be the 4070 - and if PSSR is close to DLSS then it feels viable to compare it to a 4070.

Or almost exactly like a 7700XT

That is a significant bump on our GPU hierarchy thread if the case above the series X.

I've provisionally added it at Tier E

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Pretty sure he said on a video the other day that it was actually the 7700XT that is closest, with the RDNA4 RT improvements, at roughly 40-50% faster than the 6700 which was close to the original PS5.

Edit:
Now bear in mind the 7700XT is currently a £300 GPU, so doesn't really make the case that the PS5 Pro is worth it, even in comparison to a PC, even including the RDNA4 RT improvements, which is maybe worth another say 20% value?

TPU puts the 7700XT at average 142% performance of the 6700, so that sounds about bang on TBH.

We will need to see pricing on RDNA4, but rumour has it AMD is trying to use the Blackwell delays and have it out in the next few months, at reasonable prices. If the RDNA4 7700XT equivalent comes out and costs £350-400, it's highlighting how much Sony is taking the **** as they'll be getting massive cost cuts on this stuff due to volume.

 

[t2na]

Or almost exactly like a 7700XT

Pretty sure he said on a video the other day that it was actually the 7700XT that is closest, with the RDNA4 RT improvements, at roughly 40-50% faster than the 6700 which was close to the original PS5.

Edit:
Now bear in mind the 7700XT is currently a £300 GPU, so doesn't really make the case that the PS5 Pro is worth it, even in comparison to a PC, even including the RDNA4 RT improvements, which is maybe worth another say 20% value?

TPU puts the 7700XT at average 142% performance of the 6700, so that sounds about bang on TBH.

We will need to see pricing on RDNA4, but rumour has it AMD is trying to use the Blackwell delays and have it out in the next few months, at reasonable prices. If the RDNA4 7700XT equivalent comes out and costs £350-400, it's highlighting how much Sony is taking the **** as they'll be getting massive cost cuts on this stuff due to volume.

It's worth having a listen to Rich in this video as he mentions that it's tough to compare it to an AMD equivalent even though it's from AMD!

'Nvidia style feature set - but made by AMD'.

 

[Timber]

Yeah, Rich from Digital Foundry has said that it's closest GPU match will be the 4070 - and if PSSR is close to DLSS then it feels viable to compare it to a 4070.

They did. Indeed a number of the videos I've watched make this comparison because the closet AMD GPU; 7700XT doesn't include any of the machine learning or RT features. I thought DF made the point that you're really waiting for the next 8000 series with RDNA 4 to make the true comparison.

 

[Raymond Lin]

If and when my DualSense gets drift issues I will just replace them with a 3rd party one. I will just live without the tech in the vibration.

 

[Manbatius]

Or almost exactly like a 7700XT



I've provisionally added it at Tier E

Thank you, was half tempted to ask in there, see its on provisionally.

 

[Manbatius]

If and when my DualSense gets drift issues I will just replace them with a 3rd party one. I will just live without the tech in the vibration.

This is what friends have done with the Switch Joycons,

I persevere as can change them relatively easy, More of a faff with a dual sense.
Not sure exactly what it is but dualsense and the series controllers seem much more susceptible to drift than the dual shock 4 and none series ones. (they can get it as well, just do not seem this bad)

I think the price of controllers make it more frustrating, more expensive and less reliable, wonderful

 

[ZXSpectrum]

I have 2 controllers a white one that came with the console (So almost 4 years old) and it has no drift. The only reason i bought a new one was that a) it was black to match my side plates and b) it cost me £30. So i have a spare that as far as i can tell works perfectly it is just that its white and the battery isnt the greatest and a newish black one (About a year old) With no issues. I just keep them on the charger, use the black one most of the time but if i have had a long play session i will stick it back on the charger and play with the older one..

 

[ZG002]

I have 2 controllers a white one that came with the console (So almost 4 years old) and it has no drift. The only reason i bought a new one was that a) it was black to match my side plates and b) it cost me £30. So i have a spare that as far as i can tell works perfectly it is just that its white and the battery isnt the greatest and a newish black one (About a year old) With no issues. I just keep them on the charger, use the black one most of the time but if i have had a long play session i will stick it back on the charger and play with the older one..

I have two original (day one) and both have drift now, one is unusable while the other can be tweeked out for now if a game has dead zone adjustment. I was waiting for the pro to see if I was going to be getting it on release but it's looking like a no so will be looking for a controller. I might look at trying to replace the analogue on the properly broken one as I like to tinker.