****The Official Samsung Galaxy S II Thread***
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Soldato
I see little point in justifying an upgrade from a last gen Android phone to this for a slightly better screen, Android 2.3, and 1080p recording. I mean how much is a second hand S-GS worth let alone something like my HTC Desire £180-200? It would leave you spending £350 for a small upgrade, if you really want 1080p then get a mini HD camcorder for £100 with better quality.
As for getting this on a 2 year contract you have to be insane, 24 months at likely £35-40pm? £840 over 2 years, SIM only with handset bought out right seems the best option and you are not tied in to some horrific deal.
Don't get me wrong I like these new handsets but I think phone pricing is getting out of hand, I got my Desire free on a £15pm contract last April when it was released, but networks are seriously beginning to take the pee pee with these prices.
As for getting this on a 2 year contract you have to be insane, 24 months at likely £35-40pm? £840 over 2 years, SIM only with handset bought out right seems the best option and you are not tied in to some horrific deal.
Don't get me wrong I like these new handsets but I think phone pricing is getting out of hand, I got my Desire free on a £15pm contract last April when it was released, but networks are seriously beginning to take the pee pee with these prices.
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If you got a free Desire for £15pm (assuming 24mth) when it was released you've done very well, most people were paying more than that. They were probably paying what they'll have to pay now to get the new SGS 2.
Unfortunately at the rate technology moves, you either have to spend money or suck it up and have old technology. You cant really take the stance of 'well a better one will be out in so many months' otherwise you'll never buy anything
Unfortunately at the rate technology moves, you either have to spend money or suck it up and have old technology. You cant really take the stance of 'well a better one will be out in so many months' otherwise you'll never buy anything
Man of Honour
I've not seen any £100 camcorder that does HD1080 with that kind of smoothness and detail.
Heck I have a 1080 Samsung camcorder and that pales compared to the SGS-II.
Soldato
If you got a free Desire for £15pm (assuming 24mth) when it was released you've done very well, most people were paying more than that. They were probably paying what they'll have to pay now to get the new SGS 2.
Unfortunately at the rate technology moves, you either have to spend money or suck it up and have old technology. You cant really take the stance of 'well a better one will be out in so many months' otherwise you'll never buy anything
I am actually on an 18 month contract, I would never take a 24 month contract unless at gunpoint by a Phones4U saleman
I also think you missed my point, for people upgrading from last gen Android handsets this is simply not good value, next gen coming Q4 2011 maybe after all the manufacturers have to respond to the Jesus Phone 5.Oh sorry then, £135 for a small handheld camcorder. I really hope you are not saying the lens in that camera is better than a dedicated camera, it's a phone sensor and is tiny in comparison to a full size equivalent, I bet if you put the SGS2 it low light it will look junk.
Caporegime
Impressive compared to current Android phones, then. Stop comparing apples and oranges.
I am actually on an 18 month contract, I would never take a 24 month contract unless at gunpoint by a Phones4U saleman
Upgrading any technology isn't ever good value to be honest, you should really keep it for a good couple of years if you can, but meh, thats boring
So, £15 per month you say, for 18 months, on the release of a top selling popular phone? I assume you must have several other contracts in play with the network then or have some form of friends discount?
Soldato
Upgrading any technology isn't ever good value to be honest, you should really keep it for a good couple of years if you can, but meh, thats boring
So, £15 per month you say, for 18 months, on the release of a top selling popular phone? I assume you must have several other contracts in play with the network then or have some form of friends discount?
Not at all, I have one contract with them, I just called up the T-Mobile CS team and managed to speak to a lady who was very generous and very helpful, and offered me that deal. If you look back to March/April time the deals that were on offer were so much better. I just don't get how a top of the line phone this year demands such a premium 12 months on.
EDIT: As for being boring, I can't see what 2.3 and new hardware brings to Android over current gen, very little and not £300+ worth of upgrade.
Man of Honour
I am actually on an 18 month contract, I would never take a 24 month contract unless at gunpoint by a Phones4U saleman
Oh sorry then, £135 for a small handheld camcorder. I really hope you are not saying the lens in that camera is better than a dedicated camera, it's a phone sensor and is tiny in comparison to a full size equivalent, I bet if you put the SGS2 it low light it will look junk.
It's a fixed lens so no it won't have the focusing speed or optical zoom capabilities of a sub £200 camcorder but the encoding quality and the sensor is definitely there (if not better).
Hell even the SGS at 720p is excellent in low light. Have you even used one? I don't think so.
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Soldato
I'd hardly call that excellent, it's average at best and the amount of light being picked up is pretty low, and then what is being shown is making the darker areas of the video almost invisible.
I will not debate this anymore, good luck with your £550 phonecorder.
Man of Honour
Either your monitor is rubbish or your eyes if you think that looks bad.
And no, I'm going to enjoy whatever phone the XDA developers decide to focus on.
And no, I'm going to enjoy whatever phone the XDA developers decide to focus on.
I hate when people pull this card...the majority of people carry their phones with them everywhere therefore it makes sense for them to have the best camera/features on the phone that they can...who wants to carry multiple devices for each purpose just in case they need it.
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One of the guaranteed things people will do when a new phone comes out is try and put it down as best they can so they dont feel like buying it. It happens time and time again
So Khaaan, are you going to go for this when its released or are you waiting to see how XDA shapes up first?
I hate when people pull this card...the majority of people carry their phones with them everywhere therefore it makes sense for them to have the best camera/features on the phone that they can...who wants to carry multiple devices for each purpose just in case they need it.
Indeed, but see my above point about forgetting all positives and people only focusing (or creating) on negatives in an odd attempt to stop themselves wanting the phone.
Man of Honour
Not at launch if it's what XDA work on! Will wait a few weeks at least, launch prices are always high :S Plus I have some incoming cash from on the side work which will pay for it and that's not until late spring
I hope it's this phone they choose anyway, I can't see it being the moto due to it being locked down until someone finds a way round it and the LG camera doesn't seem to be that good at all.
I hope it's this phone they choose anyway, I can't see it being the moto due to it being locked down until someone finds a way round it and the LG camera doesn't seem to be that good at all.
Soldato
I am not putting the phone down, I am putting down the stupid cost for a small upgrade, if this is a new purchase then by all means it's the same price as any premium phone.
I don't care if people want to upgrade but spending £300+ for an upgrade less that 9 months after getting a previous generation model is just insane, fair play to those who have the disposable income to justify this but I'd rather take the £300 to put towards a holiday in Egypt for 8 weeks (8 weeks for £300 sounds right about now) or maybe seriously look at what I have no and ask myself do I need this?
The SGS2 will be a flagship handset for at least 3 months, and I am sure lots of people will get great joy from it for hopefully longer than 9 months. Now that I think about it £550 is kind of crazy, you can buy a Dell Adamo Laptop with 128GB SSD for £498.00, do you upgrade you laptop every 9 months (if you own one).
The SGS2 will be a flagship handset for at least 3 months, and I am sure lots of people will get great joy from it for hopefully longer than 9 months. Now that I think about it £550 is kind of crazy, you can buy a Dell Adamo Laptop with 128GB SSD for £498.00, do you upgrade you laptop every 9 months (if you own one).
Phones are going through the stage PCs/Laptops went through in the late 90s/early 00s. Back then a pentium 3 laptop cost £1500 and most people upgraded every year/9 months
Soldato
yeah after getting into the whole rooting and custom rom, i want a phone that xda peeps will develop with just like they have with the HTC Desire, the Moto looks great, but pfff locked bookloader 