*** The Official Samsung Galaxy S4 Thread ***

most of us will be using ROMs anyway ;)

ROMs/themes don't fix the disorganised apps though :p Unless you flash something like PA or CM but then you will loose all the good stuff of touchwiz i.e. media playback capabilities, camera and then being less stable than a touchwiz based rom etc.

Personally I don't want to faff about with rooting/flashing custom roms ever again so the software out of the box (overall) will be an extremely important factor. Was a breath of fresh air with my S and not having to flash/root it in order to fix/improve anything, although I was very tempted to do it a month or so ago as I was extremely bored and felt like a change but in the end didn't due to all the annoying wee niggles :( Plus the amount of time I would waste flashing different things etc. :o :p
 
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There a stock themed touchwiz based rom which was pretty good for the S3 if you want that sort of thing?

Was that jellybean domination or something like that iirc?

IIRC do they not actually replace the stock apps with 3rd party/CM apps?

Really don't want to root etc. though but at least with Samsung devices it is much easier and quicker than htc devices!
 
It does look rather big in the leak videos. More so than the S3 did (obviously because it is bigger, but still!).

But if you looked at those last leaked dimensions, 140.1 x 71.8 x 7.7mm and compare against the SG3, 136.6 x 70.6 x 8.6 mm, then it does not look very much bigger:

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Agreed on LG, I'm not a fan of them at all. The phones are usually quite meh and the software situation is a disaster.

+1 Amen to that. The LG Optimus 2X was a complete train wreck and the problems still haven't been resolved and the company has moved on and swept the issues under the carpet. Now that's customer service for you! Looking after the consumers to the end! :eek:

Problem is I think the stock android looks fine, Doesn't need to be completely unified, But somehow Samsung make it look like a pile of turd.

Touchwiz does have it's uses, Smart Stay, pop up video, swipe to capture screen shots, split screen apps etc.

However it looks completely crap and the colour schemes just look like a complete mess. Hence why I rooted my S3 LTE and installed a custom ROM and throughout the ROM themed it with Holo.

I don't like the new colours used in Touchwiz from the videos that I have seen some parts are white, others black, it's rather disjointed.

LG are obviously very scared of Samsung and are trying desperately to steal Samsung's thunder. They've announced "new" eye tracking software which will be featured in the forthcoming LG Optimus Pro

"In what looks to be an attempt to steal some of its rival Samsung's thunder ahead of its Galaxy S4 launch, LG has announced a Smart Video feature for its Optimus G Pro. The enhancement is able to track the position of a viewer's eyes and automatically plays or pauses the videos when the user looks away.

The Smart Video feature is part of LG's Value Pack upgrade, which also includes a Dual Camera function that lets users take a picture with both front and rear cameras simultaneously.

These updates will be made available next month and are only available for its new 5.5-inch phablet. However, do note that the G Pro is yet to launch in other markets besides Korea, though we do understand it will be heading to North America soon. This does mean that LG's eye-tracking feature will be limited in reach compared with the global launch of the S4.

Other tweaks include a better remote control experience when using the smartphone to control an LG smart TV, customizing the LED color on the home button, letting you pause and resume a video recording as well as adding color emoticons.
"

More here:

http://phandroid.com/2013/03/14/lg-optimus-g-pro-value-pack/

LG are stirring up a hornet's nest here, I can't see Samsung gate crashing an Apple event or putting up billboards next to theirs.

LG suck at everything...why make copies of Samsung phones and port across their features?

Who's copying who? Apple get copied by Samsung (that's contrary to opinion) and LG copy Samsung.
 
It might not look much bigger, but in the hand it will be "noticeable", unless Samsung have made the ergonomic curves even better.

Looking at the weight, I thought 138g was a fair bit heavier than the GS 3, but just looking at the gs 3 now, it is 133g, thought it was lighter than that!


Also,

Phil Schiller bashes the Galaxy S IV, says it runs on dated OS

Butthurt much? :p

Do agree with him big time on the fragmentation issues though, the biggest disadvantage of android.

That is one thing, it will be interesting to see what the battery life of this is like as 4.2/4.2.1 is extremely poor in this area, nexus 4 suffered big time as a result and has much improved with 4.2.2 and that was the reason htc (amongst other problems with 4.2) decided to stick with 4.1.2, although iirc it was largely down to the the snapdragon chipset so perhaps the international GS 3 will be safe.......
 
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People sill blog about fragmentation? They've been saying the same old thing since Froyo. Post JB it's really not a big deal and besides, any phone coming out now will be running JB anyway unless it's by the bend you over the table company, Vertu.
 
People sill blog about fragmentation? They've been saying the same old thing since Froyo. Post JB it's really not a big deal and besides, any phone coming out now will be running JB anyway unless it's by the bend you over the table company, Vertu.

Aren't the majority of Android devices still running Gingerbread rather than something newer?
 
Unfortunately it is true and a very big problem though (although not that the average joes will care or have a clue about it :p) and something, which doesn't seem to be improving at all and isn't a priority by any OEM, even google don't seem to care and unfortunately I think they are the only ones that can do something about it, be it rework the software in a certain way so the main/core of the new android update can arrive on phones without OEM's/networks involvement or/and be more tight fisted/strict with the companies :(

If a said phone is said to get the update, then you have these problems:

- the time it takes for the OEM to bring it out

and/or

you then have the network involved with the updates, have to add their own stuff and test it to make sure it is ok.

IIRC, the large majority of android devices are still running 2.3.
 
Sing another tune about fragmentation as it's getting boring now.

Makes you think why Schiller would say such a thing hours before a launch. I think someone within Apple are bricking themselves and are worried that their market share is being eaten away.

Poor diddums.
 
You must remember those older devices were before Google set the guidelines post ICS as well. Updates should happen at set schedules now and there are certain things makers have to adhere to.

Yes, GB still takes a slightly larger portion but ICS and JB combined dominate almost half of the rest: http://www.androidtapp.com/tag/android-statistics/

As said, phones of 'today' will follow the new guidelines and won't (shouldn't) fall foul of not getting updated. They're all certainly powerful and specced well enough to handle the updates.

Also remember many of those GB devices will be sitting on appliances for home media use like media players and other "Android" portables. Cheap stuff that sell on eBay but are bought by loads of people. Stuff that will rarely ever get updated because they're doing one thing only.
 
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Sing another tune about fragmentation as it's getting boring now.

Makes you think why Schiller would say such a thing hours before a launch. I think someone within Apple are bricking themselves and are worried that their market share is being eaten away.

Poor diddums.

I guess much like LG, he's trying to rain on Samsung's parade?
 
Granted it's still an "issue" however why attack an operating system that obviously has come in and taken away your precious sales. It's because they're worried and running scared...look at ios it hasn't changed at all in terms of looks. It's stale in my eyes.

It's the nature of the beast, people will start to attack once the other is perceived to be a threat. Even more so in the competitive and cut throat world of technology.
 
Granted it's still an "issue" however why attack an operating system that obviously has come in and taken away your precious sales. It's because they're worried and running scared...look at ios it hasn't changed at all in terms of looks. It's stale in my eyes.

It's the nature of the beast, people will start to attack once the other is perceived to be a threat. Even more so in the competitive and cut throat world of technology.

I think you're jumping the gun a bit just because it's Apple. He's hardly going to sing the praises of Android is he... would be the same with any other company were the roles reversed.

Think of all the stuff Samsung do to mock Apple etc, is that because they're scared as well... :p
 
why do Samsung insist on trying to be like Apple.

Because being like Apple is seemingly what they industry think is the thing to aspire to. just listen to these industry experts from the BBC S4 article....

Like the S3, the S4 is expected to run on Google's Android operating system - but analysts are predicting some heavy customisation from Samsung in order to give the device a more distinctive feel and, crucially, set it apart from its competitors' Android-based handsets.

This is important, says Gartner analyst Roberta Cozza, if Samsung is to gain a higher level of loyalty to its device range.

Unlike with Apple, where a large number of iPhone owners gravitate towards the iPad when they decide to purchase a tablet, the same cannot be said of other brands, where customers more likely to mix and match.


The Samsung Galaxy range consists of tablets and mid-sized "phablets" as well as smartphones
"We will see more of a step towards more 'stickiness' towards the brand," Ms Cozza says.

"Already the Galaxy S3 can be seen as an alternative to the iPhone, [but] the integration that Apple offers with iPad is still not matched. Samsung is not there."

Ovum's principal device analyst, Tony Cripps, says Samsung needs to take these steps if it is to fend off the threat from other hardware manufacturers such as Chinese firm Huawei.

"While Samsung continues to grow its shipments impressively, the company undermines its own position in the broader ecosystem by providing Google a huge mobile platform from which to influence consumers, application developers and advertisers," he says.

"It is very difficult for Samsung to achieve that level of influence itself while it depends on Google to supply device software and key applications and services through Android.

"Lacking a powerful ecosystem of its own clearly positions the company lower down in the value chain than either Google or Apple."

So there you go, these guys are the "experts" and it's their advice that the likes of Samsung follow. Clearly they are saying Samsung need to drop Android, create it's own OS and appstore and make their products all integrate with each other (they already do of course, what the 'experts' mean is be like Apple and make your products so they will only talk to other bits of kit made by you).

Apple's business model is seemingly the one everyone should be aiming for, it's the ultimate in lazy analysis. Thei analysis is no more than 'just copy Apple'.

Of course if everyone did it would be an absolute nightmare, developers would have to make versions to 12 different manufacturer's personal OS's and app-stores. Apple's business model may make a hell of a lot of money but it's essentially anti-consumer choice and anti-competition, the mentality is basically once someone has bought a product from you, lock them down so it's as hard as possible for the to buy from someone else.
 
You must remember those older devices were before Google set the guidelines post ICS as well. Updates should happen at set schedules now and there are certain things makers have to adhere to.

Yes, GB still takes a slightly larger portion but ICS and JB combined dominate almost half of the rest: http://www.androidtapp.com/tag/android-statistics/

As said, phones of 'today' will follow the new guidelines and won't (shouldn't) fall foul of not getting updated. They're all certainly powerful and specced well enough to handle the updates.

Hmm, true!

Shame it takes OEM's forever to get the updates on the handsets though :(
 
Samsung to call PHOLED display Hyper Bright Display?

A US Patent and Trademark Office filing reveals that Samsung has just recently coined the term Hyper Bright Display, and rushed to trademark it Monday so nobody can call dibs on the moniker.

We know what you are thinking - the leaked Galaxy S IV seems to sport a pretty luminant display that is unlike Super AMOLED panels we've seen so far on Sammy's handsets, including the Note II, which tops 400 nits of brightness. It may or may not be the case that the Hyper Bright Display term has been trademarked to indicate the Galaxy S IV screen, but we certainly hope so.

Even if it turns out wishful thinking, it's heartwarming to know that a maker of Samsung's magnitude has turned focus on display brightness, which is often one of the weak points in those panels, as they get to be used outside pretty often.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...isplay-ahead-of-the-Galaxy-S-4-launch_id40835
 
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