*** The Official Samsung Galaxy S4 Thread ***

mrk said:
You must remember those older devices were before Google set the guidelines post ICS as well. Updates should happen at set schedules now and there are certain things makers have to adhere to.

Yes, GB still takes a slightly larger portion but ICS and JB combined dominate almost half of the rest: http://www.androidtapp.com/tag/android-statistics/

As said, phones of 'today' will follow the new guidelines and won't (shouldn't) fall foul of not getting updated. They're all certainly powerful and specced well enough to handle the updates.

Also remember many of those GB devices will be sitting on appliances for home media use like media players and other "Android" portables. Cheap stuff that sell on eBay but are bought by loads of people. Stuff that will rarely ever get updated because they're doing one thing only.
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+1 I have two media players (both Sony) which still run Gingerbread and haven't got a chance in hell in being updated and will never see the likes of ICS.

Number29 said:
I guess much like LG, he's trying to rain on Samsung's parade?
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Absolutely...he's bricking himself!
 
Wonder how the screen will be for the following:

- power consumption on bright colours/whites
- white levels, GS 2 and GS 3 etc. have awful whites
- calibration overall
 
Robbo said:
I think you're jumping the gun a bit just because it's Apple. He's hardly going to sing the praises of Android is he... would be the same with any other company were the roles reversed.

Think of all the stuff Samsung do to mock Apple etc, is that because they're scared as well... :p
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Well he couldn't have timed it better? He has 365 days at his disposal and he chooses quite surprisingly enough the very day that their biggest competitor is going to launch a phone that will eat into their market. Is that a coincidence? :p

You don't see Coca Cola dissing Pepsi and vice versa do you? :D

The whole Apple vs Samsung thing is getting very tired IMHO, to all you execs out there, get over it! and let the consumers decide what's good and what isnt!
 
Nexus18 said:
Do agree with him big time on the fragmentation issues though, the biggest disadvantage of android.
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Fragmentation has nothing to with Android, it's the manufacturers inability to tell the carriers to do quick updates (of course the vendors and carriers want you to buy a new phone).

For some reason the carriers said to Apple "sure we won't demand bloatware is installed on the iPhone and we'll support your updates as soon as they're out" but then said to everyone who makes an Android based device "No way Jose, we ain't selling that on our network unless you include all this crap adware of ours and we won't support your updates until we feel like either".

Why the carriers are willing to bend to Apple's will but not for Samsung, Motorola etc, I don't know.

I think this problem will become less and less, Apple manage to make carriers behave themselves because they knew the carrier needed the iPhone more than it needed the bloatware and restricted updates, if the sales of the Galaxy keep going up all it will take is Samsung to lay down the law and the phone will be so popular the carriers would be stupid to refuse.
 
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stoosh said:
Well he couldn't have timed it better? He has 365 days at his disposal and he chooses quite surprisingly enough the very day that their biggest competitor is going to launch a phone that will eat into their market. Is that a coincidence? :p
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Well he's obviously timed it for effect, yeah.

stoosh said:
You don't see Coca Cola dissing Pepsi and vice versa do you? :D
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Well there's no comparison there, only fools drink Pepsi! :eek: :D

stoosh said:
The whole Apple vs Samsung thing is getting very tired IMHO, to all you execs out there, get over it! and let the consumers decide what's good and what isnt!
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Yes it is, it's tired overall. I see the appeal of both Apple and Samsung in this case and I like them both for different things and different reasons, something which is seemingly unheard of. :p
 
So very true, it's because Apple know that the carriers need the iphone more than Apple needs them. Hence Apple's sway over them is extremely powerful. This was not the case when Android was in its fledgling state and carriers, OEM's just mutated Android and developed their own version.

Apple have got one thing sorted and that's ruling with an iron rod, if you don't like it then tough. Good in many ways but in others not - arguments of ios being a closed and rigid system spring to mind.
 
Compared to other SAMOLED screens, they are poor :p I found that the galaxy nexus had great whites (for a SAMOLED screen, although the screen itself wasn't very bright) and have found my one S to be the best when it comes to whites on SAMOLED, supposedly the RAZR i has even better whites (not seen one myself), imagine it will be the same for the other razr phones.

Indeed, unfortunately with this new touchwiz, you will be lucky to see black though :p It is all white now, hence I am hoping that they have improved the whites and the power efficiency when white is displayed :p
 
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Robbo said:
Well he's obviously timed it for effect, yeah.

Very dramatic!


Well there's no comparison there, only fools drink Pepsi! :eek: :D

Fizzy drinks are bad for you! Only the reckless would drink such beverages! :eek::D



Yes it is, it's tired overall. I see the appeal of both Apple and Samsung in this case and I like them both for different things and different reasons, something which is seemingly unheard of. :p
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That's because you're a special chap! :p
 
Nexus18 said:
Was that jellybean domination or something like that iirc?

IIRC do they not actually replace the stock apps with 3rd party/CM apps?

Really don't want to root etc. though but at least with Samsung devices it is much easier and quicker than htc devices!
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wanamlite is a stripped down touchwiz rom so you get all the smart stay etc but none of the bloatware and you can pick and choose which bits you want then use jb domination to theme it as stock android. Its very good.

And yes rooting and flashing samsungs is much much easier than HTCs plus you don't have to tell anyone you've ever done it, you can reset the flash counters etc very easily for warranty etc, don't need to unlock the bootloader officially etc. In fact I think you've said something in this thread about exynos based devices being tricky with flashing? In my experience thats either not true or its overcome by the volume of devs, samsungs are very very easy to flash, nigh on impossible to brick and you're really doing yourself a disservice by not checking it out if there are aspects of the stock software you don't like.
 
Robbo said:
I don't think the S3 whites are 'awful', that's a bit much.
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He does like to exaggerate hehe. When I get hold of the HOS again I'll see if I can Understand what he's on about.

And nexus, custom roms have moved on from the spica days. Mine is running lovely. And jb dom themes apps, not replace them.
 
I wouldnt be worried about the whites on the TW UI ruining your battery life. Well, not unless you're the sort who likes to leave his phone sitting with the screen on and the settings menu permanently open, lol.

I tried a few of the MIUI roms on my S2 and i really didnt notice any difference in battery life. I quite like their colour scheme, actually.:o
 
matt100 said:
In fact I think you've said something in this thread about exynos based devices being tricky with flashing? In my experience thats either not true or its overcome by the volume of devs, samsungs are very very easy to flash, nigh on impossible to brick and you're really doing yourself a disservice by not checking it out if there are aspects of the stock software you don't like.
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Easy to flash, crap to develop ASOP ROMs and things like that for due to the closed source nature of the exynos code.
 
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