**The Official Star Wars Battlefront II Thread (PC)**

Welp, at least you're honest and this is why EA do exceedingly well as most have this mindset.

Maybe so but I don’t see anything wrong with having this mindset... I’m not some die hard video gamer, I’m the definition of casual and wouldn’t want to be any other way. I can’t fake outrage over something which doesn’t bother or effect me.
 
Maybe so but I don’t see anything wrong with having this mindset... I’m not some die hard video gamer, I’m the definition of casual and wouldn’t want to be any other way. I can’t fake outrage over something which doesn’t bother or effect me.

I'm not die hard either but I can apply some thought as to why it will continue to make gaming less and less enjoyable for everyone.
 
In a perfect world where EA got the message.... What would happen?

As someone quite rightly pointed out, they'd make token changes make you feel like they were really addressing the issue then straight away go back to screwing us over.

Lets say nobody bought the game. EA decided to dump the project and cut its losses meaning we'd get no further games from them. We lose out. Its unlikely any other small time publisher would pick it up as they'd see it as a toxic brand.

No small time dev could buy the franchise as they wouldn't have the capital or be give licence rights from Lucas/Disney!

So folks we're in a lose lose situation. Those not giving their money to EA I applaud you. But personally I've literally got absolutely nothing to play... So the £44 I spent I feel will be worth it.... Until I get battered by rich people.
 
Regarding this point....

Its the internet, everyone is always having a breakdown over something on the internet. Its like THE place to moan about something in the modern age, be it loot crates, a tv show or how certain chocolate bars arent as big as they used to be :D

In fact look ! I've just used the internet to moan about people using the internet to moan ! :p


My new favourite pass time is watching r/gaming get triggered over gaming news each week, absolutely hilarious, you would think that they EA are personally wronging them. :D

By the way what do you actually get in these loot boxes, I know heroes, vehicles, armour and guns etc. Are some of the guns and armour straight up not balanced then and better than the early stuff?
 
In a perfect world where EA got the message.... What would happen?

As someone quite rightly pointed out, they'd make token changes make you feel like they were really addressing the issue then straight away go back to screwing us over.

Lets say nobody bought the game. EA decided to dump the project and cut its losses meaning we'd get no further games from them. We lose out. Its unlikely any other small time publisher would pick it up as they'd see it as a toxic brand.

No small time dev could buy the franchise as they wouldn't have the capital or be give licence rights from Lucas/Disney!

So folks we're in a lose lose situation. Those not giving their money to EA I applaud you. But personally I've literally got absolutely nothing to play... So the £44 I spent I feel will be worth it.... Until I get battered by rich people.

EA can afford for it to tank and in a perfect world they would change their methods.

Seems a clear attempt to replicate Fifa player packs to me, player packs make them more money than selling the actual game.
 
In a perfect world where EA got the message.... What would happen?

As someone quite rightly pointed out, they'd make token changes make you feel like they were really addressing the issue then straight away go back to screwing us over.

Lets say nobody bought the game. EA decided to dump the project and cut its losses meaning we'd get no further games from them. We lose out. Its unlikely any other small time publisher would pick it up as they'd see it as a toxic brand.

No small time dev could buy the franchise as they wouldn't have the capital or be give licence rights from Lucas/Disney!

So folks we're in a lose lose situation. Those not giving their money to EA I applaud you. But personally I've literally got absolutely nothing to play... So the £44 I spent I feel will be worth it.... Until I get battered by rich people.

Not a small time development team no, but a large one the size of Blizzard for example could.

EA are the holders of the Star Wars licence and that isn't going to change and I honestly dont think it will change even when their contract with Disney expires, it will more than likely be renewed, as EA will not want to let Star Wars go and also go to another company.

Change is subjective and EA will never change. We have all bought an EA game whereby we've been upset with them and exclaiming to the heavens, such as yourself with Battlefield 2 closure and Battlefield 4, yet many people still buy their games.

My reasons for my feelings towards this game is that;

  1. Its too expensive for what it is (I can afford it though)
  2. Lootboxes, progression system and the methods in which to do that are deliberately set to monetise
  3. FPS games don't interest me as much as they did during BC2 - BF4
  4. I reserved myself to not pre-order another EA/DICE game till 3 months after release due to the previous launches of their games
  5. The game should have been F2P with this system despite the P2W aspect, they would have made more income than Galaxy of Heroes
In the end, it comes down to each individual gamers personal preference, they will either buy the game or they won't. Simply put, the choice is yours on what you do with your money and personal time.
 
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Ok so I have not played any multiplayer yet but have put about an hour and a half into the story. WOW!!! it sucks you in with lovely graphics, great sound and an enjoyable story. Prob put more into the single player this evening. I did have some crashing issues to start with but all seems to have calmed down now.
 
I'm not die hard either but I can apply some thought as to why it will continue to make gaming less and less enjoyable for everyone.

Exactly.

If you don't think things are bad now then just wait and see what the state of games will be in 2+ years time, possibly even less than that with the things are going now..... and the reason will be because of people like the above, no principles or will power and just don't give a ****.



To add even more fuel to the fire, EA have also just announced that they will invest in "live services" aka micro transactions will be a part of all future games now and who knows, possibly a pay yearly model????

Have to laugh at this comment:

Jorgensen believes that the gaming industry is moving towards a ‘play the service‘ instead of a ‘play the game‘ model. And EA will definitely be a part of it. After all, this is evident from the cancellation of Visceral’s Star Wars game. EA believed that there weren’t many ways via which players could ‘play the experience‘.

You mean there weren't many ways for you greedy ***** to milk people as much as possible? :rolleyes:

Also, probably because people are still playing the likes of bf 2, 3, 4 and bc 2 instead of their latest **** thus there is potentially lots of money being missed out on so yeah they don't just want to milk you in new games but will still want to milk you proper and good on 3+ year old games in the future....

How can people not see through all this corporate BS..... :o

This is what makes PS 4 even more appealing, seems like if you want to just buy a game and get a great single player experience, sony will at least provide that, for now anyway........
 
Exactly.

If you don't think things are bad now then just wait and see what the state of games will be in 2+ years time, possibly even less than that with the things are going now..... and the reason will be because of people like the above, no principles or will power and just don't give a ****.


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Jesus calm down! The whole games industry is utter dog **** at the moment. Between Early access full price buy ins and multiple dev teams making their money and shooting off!

what shall we all do.... Just stop buying games completely? No.... Just be smarter.... Dont purchase loots boxes and dont pay anymore than the orignal asking price.

Think people are getting a bit elisit about this. How can you reach their target audience? You cant.... Same as politics, changing parties makes a small difference to your life, but ultimately you'll still get screwed over.

Just a stupid childish comment to say " no principles or will power" ..... Have a look at the bigger picture, how many Alpha's have you bought into in the last 2 years? Or are smarter than everyone else and didn't buy any bad game?
 
Jesus calm down! The whole games industry is utter dog **** at the moment. Between Early access full price buy ins and multiple dev teams making their money and shooting off!

what shall we all do.... Just stop buying games completely? No.... Just be smarter.... Dont purchase loots boxes and dont pay anymore than the orignal asking price.

Think people are getting a bit elisit about this. How can you reach their target audience? You cant.... Same as politics, changing parties makes a small difference to your life, but ultimately you'll still get screwed over.

Just a stupid childish comment to say " no principles or will power" ..... Have a look at the bigger picture, how many Alpha's have you bought into in the last 2 years? Or are smarter than everyone else and didn't buy any bad game?

With that approach there isn't even a chance for things to change.
 
Exactly.

If you don't think things are bad now then just wait and see what the state of games will be in 2+ years time, possibly even less than that with the things are going now..... and the reason will be because of people like the above, no principles or will power and just don't give a ****.

lol at me apparently having no principles or will power just because im not arsed about micro transactions in video games. Hardcore gamers can be a strange bunch...
 
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With that approach there isn't even a chance for things to change.

Why dont we all go and chain ourselves to trees or sing around a camp fire while boycotting EA..... Because protest has always changed big corporation's in the past hey!

I'm over it.... I just wont buy loot boxes. Simple as that.... Thats my help to a cause that will never be won.
 
EA can afford for it to tank and in a perfect world they would change their methods.

Seems a clear attempt to replicate Fifa player packs to me, player packs make them more money than selling the actual game.
I mentioned this few pages back this isnt like the fifa system, I play ut allot and you Dont need to spend anything in ut to earn massive amount of coins. You earn plenty of coins from matches especially if you use coin boosts which are free for every one.

Also just cause players have Messi etc maybe from opening packs doesn't make them good if anything most people I seen so far with him or Ronaldo etc are dog **** at using them.

Least fifa method imo is fair bf2 isn't.

Bf2 method is clear pay to win and it's obvious from get go, and whilst I'm getting the game I'll refuse to buy loot boxes.

Reason I'm buying is well tbh I like the look of it and it's cost me 28 quid which to me for a game isn't allot.
 
£1,600 to unlock everything or According to their calculations it would take 4,528 hours (just over 188 days) to unlock everything, assuming you earn in-game credits at a rate of 1,100 per hour, ripoff.
Source http://metro.co.uk/2017/11/15/star-wars-battlefront-ii-costs-1600-to-unlock-everything-7080730/

Already posted that a few pages back and it will actually take even longer as, afaik, the cool down period for where you can't get any credits at all because you have hit the threshold wasn't factored into that math.

Jesus calm down! The whole games industry is utter dog **** at the moment. Between Early access full price buy ins and multiple dev teams making their money and shooting off!

what shall we all do.... Just stop buying games completely? No.... Just be smarter.... Dont purchase loots boxes and dont pay anymore than the orignal asking price.

Think people are getting a bit elisit about this. How can you reach their target audience? You cant.... Same as politics, changing parties makes a small difference to your life, but ultimately you'll still get screwed over.

Just a stupid childish comment to say " no principles or will power" ..... Have a look at the bigger picture, how many Alpha's have you bought into in the last 2 years? Or are smarter than everyone else and didn't buy any bad game?

lol at me apparently having no principles or will power just because im not arsed about micro transactions etc. Jesus wept, you need to get a life outside of video games mate...

Nope, it really does come down to principles and will power in the end. If you don't have any then great, nothing wrong with that, at least you can go through life without a care in the world, wish I was like that at times too!

If you genuinely just want to play the game for what it is, then great, go ahead and enjoy.

Just don't be one of these people that complain in a few years time about games sucking etc. etc. when you were/are the ones that contributed to the problem.

Also, I vote with my wallet and buy very few games, only games I buy are ones where I know I will get a good 100+ hours from and have fun with friends such as BF franchise, last game I bought was BF 1 (more on this later) and before, iirc, it was the division and before that, probably GTA 5.

I slaughtered bf 1 during alpha/betas and didn't buy the game for the first year due to how much dice had casualised the game for noobs with all their crutches i.e. elites, behemoths and HAD SWBF 2 been great, I still wouldn't have bought it but as swbf 2 is the way it is, I bought BF 1 instead as:

1. like you, no games to play and it would be at least another 1-2 years until I could play something with friends so since I knew I wasn't buying SWBF 2, I got bf 1 instead
2. DICE addressed numerous things that I wanted to be addressed, maybe not completely but still a damn sight better than release
3. I rather vote with my wallet that I want the base game with premium/dlc than support SWBF 2 grindy, pay to win/progress game system

PS. I didn't pay to get into any alphas/betas, I was lucky enough to be invited each time.

Only EA title I bought was ark and for £7, I can't really complain, got about 200 hours of pure enjoyment from it, it has since been uninstalled from my PC though due to wildcard **** practices especially after releasing the final game that was still broken in many ways i.e. optimisation and with the way they pulled of the paid for DLC/season pass too despite the release wows..... In fact, that reminds, me I should be able to get a steam refund for the game since it came out of EA stage.....

There are plenty of good games you can still buy today, funnily I actually find ubi to be a very good developer now, sure they still do dodgy **** but they're nowhere as bad as they use to be.

And don't worry about my life, my life is fantastic, only time I play games is at night with the boys from here for a couple of hours and maybe a few extra hours at the weekend.
 
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