** The Official WWDC 2012 Thread **

IMO there are no rumours until we start seeing proper evidence. Right now all of the claims about form factor and retina displays, particularly with the iMac, are purely blind speculation. Problem is that one site makes a claim, and as soon as another site copies that claim, it becomes a rumour, when it is merely speculation.

Said in the other thread, but I'm very doubtful that Apple will put "retina" displays into the new machines. It would be extremely expensive, particularly on the iMac at such sizes.
 
One thing I have learned about Apple is that they only announce things when they are within 2 weeks or so from release.
 
lamboman said:
IMO there are no rumours until we start seeing proper evidence. Right now all of the claims about form factor and retina displays, particularly with the iMac, are purely blind speculation. Problem is that one site makes a claim, and as soon as another site copies that claim, it becomes a rumour, when it is merely speculation.

Said in the other thread, but I'm very doubtful that Apple will put "retina" displays into the new machines. It would be extremely expensive, particularly on the iMac at such sizes.
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To be fair I don't think you need too crazy screen resolution to have "retina" displays in the iMacs and Macbook.

Check out this article here which looks at the maths involved and what what sort of size display you might need to achieve a "retina" display. According to that the 17" Mac Pro Book Display is technically a "retina" display.

http://www.tuaw.com/2012/03/01/retina-display-macs-ipads-and-hidpi-doing-the-math/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Aq8W2-V7OXqfdGV3OFJ5R1RxOHJjMFRfYW5VbThORXc&output=html
 
But Apple have basically instilled the term "retina" as a quadrupling of a standard resolution on the surface, while keeping elements the same size. That article is defining a distance, and working the PPI to distance ratio, I guess. The reality is very different; the distance at which you hold your phone, and the distance that you sit from your laptop, is not going to be double as it claims. It might have a high pixel density, but it isn't "retina".

No doubt that it will happen at some point, but I wouldn't say yet.
 
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lamboman said:
But Apple have basically instilled the term "retina" as a quadrupling of a standard resolution on the surface, while keeping elements the same size.
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I disagree with you here, and agree with what the article says that the definition on a Retina display (as per Apple's website is)

"the Retina display's pixel density is so high, your eye is unable to distinguish individual pixels."

It doesn't talk to any specific PPI or how much a 'standard' resolution should be multiplied.
 
lamboman said:
IMO there are no rumours until we start seeing proper evidence. Right now all of the claims about form factor and retina displays, particularly with the iMac, are purely blind speculation. Problem is that one site makes a claim, and as soon as another site copies that claim, it becomes a rumour, when it is merely speculation.

Said in the other thread, but I'm very doubtful that Apple will put "retina" displays into the new machines. It would be extremely expensive, particularly on the iMac at such sizes.
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If you start seeing "proper evidence" it's no longer a rumour, it's fact :p I'm slightly doubtful of a Retina display with the iMacs - But it's definitely plausable with the Macbook Pro range.
 
Ekim said:
I disagree with you here, and agree with what the article says that the definition on a Retina display (as per Apple's website is)

"the Retina display's pixel density is so high, your eye is unable to distinguish individual pixels."

It doesn't talk to any specific PPI or how much a 'standard' resolution should be multiplied.
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True, but their actions have always been, increase resolution, maintain element size. The only way it would work with the MBP would be to quadruple the resolution, or change the resolution and modify the elements so that they end up being "weird" in size (non-technical, I know), the latter of these is not possible.

Marky said:
If you start seeing "proper evidence" it's no longer a rumour, it's fact :p I'm slightly doubtful of a Retina display with the iMacs - But it's definitely plausable with the Macbook Pro range.
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Oh shhh :D

I'm staying skeptical until I see anything more compelling though, because right now it's all come from the HiDPI bits and bobs seen in Lion updates. Not saying that it won't happen, because who knows? If it does, I'll definitely consider selling my MBP for a new one.
 
Conanius said:
Unsure if this is widely known

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/137507...ker_loewe_ag_console_talk_hots_up_rumour.html

This was in City AM today also, Loewe's share price has gone up something like £1.50 a share since yesterday when rumours started to be heard.

I think I've just worked out what my next TV will be !
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This demonstrates the power of brands quite nicely, Loewe are manufactured and developed by Vestel, who also make all those '****' brands you see in supermarkets & Argos :D (Technika/Logik/Hitachi/Toshiba etc.).
 
Chris1712 said:
This demonstrates the power of brands quite nicely, Loewe are manufactured and developed by Vestel, who also make all those '****' brands you see in supermarkets & Argos :D (Technika/Logik/Hitachi/Toshiba etc.).
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That they might be, but I think you are kidding yourself that your cheap Technika telly is a Loewe tv with a different badge and case.

That statement is no different than 'VAG make Skoda Citygo's, and also Lamborghini Gallardo Balboni's' .... That doesnt mean that the £10k Skoda is anything close to the Lambo, its just covering a wider market share.

Loewe TV's are absolutely superb, both in looks and quality.
 
Conanius said:
That they might be, but I think you are kidding yourself that your cheap Technika telly is a Loewe tv with a different badge and case.

That statement is no different than 'VAG make Skoda Citygo's, and also Lamborghini Gallardo Balboni's' .... That doesnt mean that the £10k Skoda is anything close to the Lambo, its just covering a wider market share.

Loewe TV's are absolutely superb, both in looks and quality.
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I'm not trying to say that, they are built to a stricter set of QA rules and that's about it. The cost is the badge and the design, not necessarily the components or manufacturing, the same can be mostly applied to Apple. Just like Foxconn making Apple products and probably in an adjacent factory a KIRF iPhone-a-like :p.

Merely an observation!
 
Chris1712 said:
I'm not trying to say that, they are built to a stricter set of QA rules and that's about it. The cost is the badge and the design, not necessarily the components or manufacturing, the same can be mostly applied to Apple. Just like Foxconn making Apple products and probably in an adjacent factory a KIRF iPhone-a-like :p.

Merely an observation!
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I'm pretty sure it will be more than just QA rules....

My point is, you had a valid statement saying 'oh, Loewe are part of the X group, which also makes ABCDEF' ... you have an invalid statement saying 'Loewe TV's ARE JUST THE SAME AS THE CHEAP TAT IN TESCO LAWLZ ALL THATS DIFFERENT IS THE BADGE AND EVEN THAT IS JUST TURNED OVERZZZZZ'

I'm being pedantic, but it fills me with rage when people go 'Oh thats just an XYZ with a different badge' ... and I drive a Skoda.

Anyway.. back on topic.

New Apple 'iTV' product looks like it could be made through a partnership with Loewe, sounds promising.
 
lamboman said:
Oh shhh :D

I'm staying skeptical until I see anything more compelling though, because right now it's all come from the HiDPI bits and bobs seen in Lion updates. Not saying that it won't happen, because who knows? If it does, I'll definitely consider selling my MBP for a new one.
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:p

It's probably best to stay skeptical up until WWDC, that way you're not disappointed.
 
With the iPhone, I just hope they don't make it too large. There are some phones that are starting to look more like freakin' tablets than phones. In the mobile industry, we've gone from bricks, to small tiny little phones, and now we're getting bigger again :p
 
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