The Online Dating Journey

[dowie]

South Asian actually bottoms out worse than Chinese for online dating.

Also 5'8 and neetbux = I get to die alone and maybe spend neetbux on hookers.

Get a job and use your ethnicity cheat code to grab yourself a girl from the subcontinent then.

I know a guy at a former workplace who did this, he went to India and had an "arranged marriage", in reality he made sure to vet the potential prospects himself...

His comment was that he didn't know why white guys didn't just go to Russia etc.. and get a wife, it's a bit different though, he at least speaks Hindi and comes from that culture! Having said that, maybe some full-on incel types with no hope perhaps should look overseas.

No - I've just never found it that distinct - online dating comes up a fair bit at work and same there - I've not seen any real discrimination in that respect it has been much more about perception of how trendy and well off someone is.

It's perhaps taken to the extremes a bit though given there is a wide availability of potential suitors, especially the apps.

You haven't used enough darkweb / Incel / Aznidentity / Hapas sites like I have.

I miss strangestatistics.

Nothing matters but face and height.

Not sure that's entirely true, maybe when it comes to tinder I guess but not in general.

I suspect that a bit of effort and anyone can improve their prospects somewhat. So many guys just make rookie mistakes, even small things that could be corrected... like get your hair cut regularly, take a little bit more time when choosing your clothes + take care of them, iron your shirt etc.. And just a little bit more effort on personal hygiene - there is no excuse for someone working in an office to have dirty fingernails for example. No excuse for anyone to have bad breath or BO.

If your idea of smart shoes is basically the same scuffed-up pair you used to wear to school and occasionally wear at interviews then perhaps invest in a new pair or just put the effort into polishing them so they're not scuffed up.

Likewise just a bit more effort to cut out snacks, do a bit more exercise etc.. can be all that is needed to start getting into better shape. Ditto to confidence, if you're not able to communicate with people then you've just blown your chances with a huge chunk of the dating pool - start going to toastmasters sessions or acting classes or something and sort that out.

Bottom line, if it's taken several hundred swipes/likes/messages on some app to arrange a date then it's a complete waste of time for the incel and his date if he's blown it with something really basic from the start - low-status incel guys often can't even get basic hygiene and clothing right, and that's something anyone can do.

 

[Rroff]

Not sure that's entirely true, maybe when it comes to tinder I guess but not in general.

I suspect that a bit of effort and anyone can improve their prospects somewhat. So many guys just make rookie mistakes, even small things that could be corrected... like get your hair cut regularly, take a little bit more time when choosing your clothes + take care of them, iron your shirt etc.. And just a little bit more effort on personal hygiene - there is no excuse for someone working in an office to have dirty fingernails for example. No excuse for anyone to have bad breath or BO.

If your idea of smart shoes is basically the same scuffed-up pair you used to wear to school and occasionally wear at interviews then perhaps invest in a new pair or just put the effort into polishing them so they're not scuffed up.

Likewise just a bit more effort to cut out snacks, do a bit more exercise etc.. can be all that is needed to start getting into better shape. Ditto to confidence, if you're not able to communicate with people then you've just blown your chances with a huge chunk of the dating pool - start going to toastmasters sessions or acting classes or something and sort that out.

Bottom line, if it's taken several hundred swipes/likes/messages on some app to arrange a date then it's a complete waste of time for the incel and his date if he's blown it with something really basic from the start - low-status incel guys often can't even get basic hygiene and clothing right, and that's something anyone can do.

I know a guy called Bob - he is pushing 80, somewhere around 5 foot 8 and around 20 stone, half white half a mixture of ethnicities (usually markets himself as Latino), hygiene is not the best. Has no shortage of dates via Tinder and Bumble or whatever (I've seen the photos and conversations on his phone), claims to have slept with half of them but I can't verify that LOL. He is good at marketing himself and confident.

 

[dowie]

I know a guy called Bob - he is pushing 80, somewhere around 5 foot 8 and around 20 stone, half white half a mixture of ethnicities (usually markets himself as Latino), hygiene is not the best. Has no shortage of dates via Tinder and Bumble or whatever (I've seen the photos and conversations on his phone), claims to have slept with half of them but I can't verify that LOL. He is good at marketing himself and confident.

Bit of a different selection criteria when someone is 80, more women than men around at that age for a start.

 

[Rroff]

Bit of a different selection criteria when someone is 80, more women than men around at that age for a start.

He is dating women anywhere from 20 to 50. Granted by his own admission he tends to focus on the single mums who are realising time is running out.

(I dunno what is visible on dating sites but I'll share the name in private if anyone wants to have a look heh).

 

[dowie]

He is dating women anywhere from 20 to 50. Granted by his own admission he tends to focus on the single mums who are realising time is running out.

(I dunno what is visible on dating sites but I'll share the name in private if anyone wants to have a look heh).

An 80-year-old dating 20-year-olds... that's rather dubious and at best an extreme exception to the norm tbh...

 

[Rroff]

An 80-year-old dating 20-year-olds... that's rather dubious and at best an extreme exception to the norm tbh...

He'll take whatever shows interest. At this point he is just having fun but if people are struggling for interest then they are probably looking for excuses.

 

[dowie]

He'll take whatever shows interest. At this point he is just having fun but if people are struggling for interest then they are probably looking for excuses.

Well yes, they could take some steps to improve themselves somewhat, which was the point of the post. I'm not sure some massive outlier in the form of an 80-year-old with seemingly miraculous ability to pick up 20-something women sans possession of Hugh Heffner levels of fame/wealth is much use for anything other than an amusing anecdote.

 

[Rroff]

Well yes, they could take some steps to improve themselves somewhat, which was the point of the post. I'm not sure some massive outlier in the form of an 80-year-old with seemingly miraculous ability to pick up 20-something women sans possession of Hugh Heffner levels of fame/wealth is much use for anything other than an amusing anecdote.

Point for me is that he has nothing going in terms of height or his face let alone age, etc. but has no lack of interest from dating sites.

(Though he is a master at overselling himself and previously worked as a salesman).

 

[malachi]

He is dating women anywhere from 20 to 50. Granted by his own admission he tends to focus on the single mums who are realising time is running out.

Well there you go, he's going for low hanging fruit(no disrespect to single mums!). Same with overweight women, they are an easy target because they themselves are lacking options from men.

 

[fendi]

Well there you go, he's going for low hanging fruit(no disrespect to single mums!). Same with overweight women, they are an easy target because they themselves are lacking options from men.

fat chicks can get laid whenever they want to. daily. every fat bird has 100 of messages waiting for guys to give them the meat rocket.

they just cannot land a relationship.

 

[opethdisciple]

No, one molar is fully gone, another cracked in half, and a third has a crack / carie.

You've got to sort this out man. For your self esteem and pride.

Save up for the dentistry if you can afford it. But if you don't it's only gonna get worse over time.

 

[malachi]

fat chicks can get laid whenever they want to. daily. every fat bird has 100 of messages waiting for guys to give them the meat rocket.

they just cannot land a relationship.

Exactly and that's the key thing they want. But not many guys will give a fat chick a relationship, only bash and dash.

One I met had 514 messages.......while I had 14. None of them were looking for a relationship with her, including me.

Shame, she was a nice Polish woman, just needed to drop the weight.

 

[dowie]

fat chicks can get laid whenever they want to. daily. every fat bird has 100 of messages waiting for guys to give them the meat rocket.

they just cannot land a relationship.

That's kinda true, that where the mismatch comes in - in general, girls control dating/sex, guys control commitment.

Given the skewed nature of the dating market - something like the top 80% of girls are chasing the top 20% of guys then there are some mismatched expectations.

The sort of guy who will date (or just hook up with) a girl for a bit perhaps isn't the sort of guy who will actually want to settle down with her.

Some of this gets exaggerated by the "redpilled" types who seem to think a woman "hits the wall" aged 30 etc..

 

[malachi]

That's kinda true, that where the mismatch comes in - in general, girls control dating/sex, guys control commitment.

Given the skewed nature of the dating market - something like the top 80% of girls are chasing the top 20% of guys then there are some mismatched expectations.

The sort of guy who will date (or just hook up with) a girl for a bit perhaps isn't the sort of guy who will actually want to settle down with her.

Some of this gets exaggerated by the "redpilled" types who seem to think a woman "hits the wall" aged 30 etc..

Well in general women are better looking at aged 20 compared to at aged 30. If not physically then biological when their fertility starts to decrease.

 

[fendi]

That's kinda true, that where the mismatch comes in - in general, girls control dating/sex, guys control commitment.

Given the skewed nature of the dating market - something like the top 80% of girls are chasing the top 20% of guys then there are some mismatched expectations.

The sort of guy who will date (or just hook up with) a girl for a bit perhaps isn't the sort of guy who will actually want to settle down with her.

Some of this gets exaggerated by the "redpilled" types who seem to think a woman "hits the wall" aged 30 etc..

good looking guys and even those in great shape can just go to the slampigs house and leave after an hour. job done, no dates, no money spent. not having to be seen in public with her is a massive bonus as is time saved. and of course, this then inflates the ego of said female thinking that sort of guy is now the norm she can attract. so dismisses settling for an average looking guy as they don't measure up - remember they get dozens of messages a day being direct to bump uglies. and as she would just prefer for good looking guys to just come and give her one whenever she feels the need it messes up the whole dating scene. and of course, successful attractive guys and those that just look good don't need to settle down either, they can literally just bang most of who they match with on date 1 or 2 (max). as the women are all chasing for their validation.

anyhow, many will do this till around 35, and then settle for the average potentially just to get their bills paid. and possibly to support their children if they are single mothers

good luck fellas

(most decent females I believe aren't on dating apps. otherwise, you're looking at 1/100 who isn't damaged emotionally.

 

[theone8181]

I thought online dating was just for one night stands.

 

[malachi]

I thought online dating was just for one night stands.

Many men like it to be, I have use it for that very reason but some women just use it for attention.

(most decent females I believe aren't on dating apps. otherwise, you're looking at 1/100 who isn't damaged emotionally.

That maybe was true at one stage but when life forces their hand, which Covid and the lockdown did. Many females flocked to dating apps and haven't left since.

 

[Rroff]

good luck fellas

Not so useful for online but something I've found a bit bizarre is just how much attention I get when driving my pickup, if I'm in a Golf I might as well not exist, something a bit sportier like a Porsche gets a little attention but if I turn up in the pickup I'm getting checked out twice.

 

[BallistixOnZ490]

Not so useful for online but something I've found a bit bizarre is just how much attention I get when driving my pickup, if I'm in a Golf I might as well not exist, something a bit sportier like a Porsche gets a little attention but if I turn up in the pickup I'm getting checked out twice.

There's literally prank videos about this where guys get rejected, then their porche, ferrari or whatever pulls up and suddenly the same girl is interested.

 

[malachi]

There's literally prank videos about this where guys get rejected, then their porche, ferrari or whatever pulls up and suddenly the same girl is interested.

Status always plays a big part. Another example, you have the manager of a company sleeping with the young receptionist but if he was the janitor, he would never stand a chance with her.