I'm not referring to dlss 3/fg but just the upscaling side of dlss, dlss is still way ahead of fsr 2 especially for lower presets and lower res. which is where these gpus will be aiming at the most.
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I'm not referring to dlss 3/fg but just the upscaling side of dlss, dlss is still way ahead of fsr 2 especially for lower presets and lower res. which is where these gpus will be aiming at the most.
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Using RT on a 4060 is going to be somewhat... aspirational. I mean I've done it on my 3060 but it's never worth it and that thing is going to be barely any faster.
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Watch the videos, its not as amazing at 1080p as you think; then both cards hit the throughput limit of the ring bus (128bit)
It's not amazing but it is leaps and bounds better than FSR 2 is for lower resolution and lower presets, also when used in combination with DLDSR, you can get very good results.
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Also, this is taking into consideration the latest DLSS versions from 2.5.1 and above where massive improvements were made to lower presets of dlss.
Yup, sacrifices will have to be made but one will be more usable than the other.
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yeah slap me some of that 320p upscaling at 1080! what could go wrong
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Sort of in the same way that a dark chocolate teapot will last a bit longer than a milk chocolate teapot but sure.
Well if AMD are thinking (which is always in doubt tbh) they could easily offer a 7600 with 16GB of vram for the same price as the 4060. Then the choice is double the vram or DLSS/FG pick your posion.
I rather have a crap experience than a dog **** experience
Lesser of 2 evils and all that.With the way games are nowadays even on the ££££ hardware, no chance of avoiding the need of upscaling for gpus of this level so at least get one that will provide you with a somewhat better experience here.
Simple solution, don't buy any
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Its not though and thats the problem; the cards have both a hard ring bus limit and a ram limit. dlss et al both take ram , which takes more of that space. 1080p medium might get acceptable results (where ultra or high dont) , but this is a £400 gpu in 2023 (where the 1070 launched at)
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What do you mean? Upscaling tech reduces vram usage.... Frame generation is what uses up vram, which is why the 4060 buckles here, dlss2/upscaling is fine.
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nvidia/amd best not hear you say thatIf your card won't do 1080p native I'd say it's time to upgrade, you bought a potato
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720p was good enough for 2006 and 2006 was way better than 2023.If your card won't do 1080p native I'd say it's time to upgrade, you bought a potato
I think people are forgetting, if you need upscaling that's not a good thing, it means your hardware isn't good enough for the resolution and settings you want to run. It's a solution looking for a problem, a problem engineered by cut down chips and lack of VRAM.
Does that mean when a 4090 ***** the bed in some games at 4k natively and needs upscaling or/and frame generation to bring back up it's fps, it's not good enough?
yes
yes
Also can happen in some games at 1440p too, a 24gb gpu having issues at that res in this day and age, shock horror!
On a more serious note though, people really should experiment with DLDSR and DLSS, it is fantastic, native 3440x1440 vs 4587x1920 dlss performance
Better IQ and better performance and less vram used than native. DLSS quality looks great too and fps is about 75/80 but DLSS perf 4587x1920 if you want better IQ is the way to go.
And AA is broken with DLSS in TLOU too, in something like hogwarts, the difference is massive.
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Yeah they cheaped out on that as well. Where's the 2080 ti tier 754mm^2 monster die?
Short of some dodgy coding yes. I don't remember a time in the past where people expected any hardware to run everything at all settings maxed out. Remember Crysis? No hardware was able to max it out. The hardware wasn't bad but it couldn't do that job. The same can be said now, a lot of the hardware is being upsold, 1080p cards sold as 1440p cards but only if you use upscaling. They were simply never 1440p GPU's and the 4090 isn't good enough to max out some games natively at 4K, that's ok but let's not pretend it can.
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Thats ok, OCUK have the 4090 for under £1500 now!