The Radeon RX 7600 Review Thread

uscool · 25 May 2023 at 10:15

Grim5 said:
The weirdest thing about the 7600 is the high power draw vs its predecessor

7nm to 6nm, pretty much clocked it as high as they can RDNA3 isnt all that just a refresh and chiplet on paper looks like it should be better but something seems to have gone wrong , while nvidia with ADA on 4nm cut them down so much to hold back the performance and even place them in lower tiers

Harlequin · 25 May 2023 at 10:27

uscool said:
7nm to 6nm, pretty much clocked it as high as they can RDNA3 isnt all that just a refresh and chiplet on paper looks like it should be better but something seems to have gone wrong , while nvidia with ADA on 4nm cut them down so much to hold back the performance and even place them in lower tiers

This isnt a chiplet , its monolith

humbug · 25 May 2023 at 10:45

Alt0153 said:
they do what papi jensen tells them to do

Wait... what?

uscool · 25 May 2023 at 10:48

Harlequin said:
This isnt a chiplet , its monolith

yes I know but its still based on RDNA3 graphics architecture from 7nm to 6nm monolith still uses as much power the power is probably going to how high they are clocking it to get the performance more like a refresh

and the chiplet one specs on paper look pretty good but still seems below what we should be getting, all round I think RDNA3 isnt all that , ADA on the other hand is really impressive but poor pricing and placing them in wrong tiers , they cut them back so much just to hold back its peformance because they dont need to when the competition is what it is and if they give too much next gen jump wouldnt be as big

humbug · 25 May 2023 at 10:54

As has been said its on 6nm, which is basically a tweaked 7nm node, you can't compare that to 4nm, i mean look at the density difference, the 7600 has something like 12 Billion transistors vs about 22 Billion for the 4060Ti, transistor vs transistor RDNA3 is actually miles ahead of ADA.

G J · 25 May 2023 at 10:56

Grim5 said:
The weirdest thing about the 7600 is the high power draw vs its predecessor

I'm glad the 6600 its showing up in some power consumption tests again as I remember seeing a couple where it was absent though the rx 6600XT was included the rx 6600 proberly would have shown up the nvidia cards and made them not look as good.

The power consumption is very good on my rx 6600 as sometimes when gaming (older games mind with 60fps locked) the card does not reach the tempature point for the fans to turn on and this is with no undervolting etc. I did think there was a problem with the fans at one point. :eek:

uscool · 25 May 2023 at 10:56

humbug said:
As has been said its on 6nm, which is basically a tweaked 7nm node, you can't compare that to 4nm, i mean look at the density difference, the 7600 has something like 12 Billion transistors vs about 22 Billion for the 4060Ti, transistor vs transistor RDNA3 is actually miles ahead of ADA.

yeah but currently ADA is miles ahead look how much they are cutting them just to hold back the performance

Nvidia's next node jump wont be as big lets hope the next version of chiplet is more succesful currently feels like its in beta

humbug · 25 May 2023 at 11:09

uscool said:
yeah but currently ADA is miles ahead Nvidia's next node jump wont be as big lets hope the next version of chiplet is more succesful currently feels like its in beta

On 4nm AMD could have made it a 50+ CU GPU with more cache at the same size as the 4060Ti and similar power as it has now, this vs 32 CU's as it is, that would make it a very different GPU.

Lightnix · 25 May 2023 at 11:15

I suppose the other thing is if this is a full Navi 33, we can assume their yields aren't perfect so there's scope for a cut down part as well. A RX 7500 with performance similar to a 6600 at sub £200 would definitely be a welcome addition at the entry level.

q974739 · 25 May 2023 at 11:15

Can I ask those of you who have suffered through the reviews to give me a short comparison between this and a basic 2060? My card is getting old, but I'm really struggling to tell how much of an upgrade this would actually be?
(Yes, I've asked the same question in both this and the 4060 thread. Sorry!)

uscool · 25 May 2023 at 11:17

humbug said:
On 4nm AMD could have made it a 50+ CU GPU with more cache at the same size as the 4060Ti and similar power as it has now, this vs 32 CU's as it is, that would make it a very different GPU.

Reality and what we could have had are 2 different things , my plan was always to hold out till next gen hopefully we have better options

nvidia with its pricing and tier placing, and AMD not being aggressive enough with what they have

all round Sh#t show

Lightnix · 25 May 2023 at 11:22

q974739 said:
Can I ask those of you who have suffered through the reviews to give me a short comparison between this and a basic 2060? My card is getting old, but I'm really struggling to tell how much of an upgrade this would actually be?
(Yes, I've asked the same question in both this and the 4060 thread. Sorry!)

Think ~2080 performance at 1080p, less good at higher resolutions. More like a 2070 when RT is turned on. So a decent ~40% bump at raster, not much faster with RT.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 May 2023 at 11:26

q974739 said:
Can I ask those of you who have suffered through the reviews to give me a short comparison between this and a basic 2060? My card is getting old, but I'm really struggling to tell how much of an upgrade this would actually be?
(Yes, I've asked the same question in both this and the 4060 thread. Sorry!)

Is it the RTX2060 6GB? If so it is the VRAM causing the problems. The RX7600 and RTX4060TI would be a reasonable uplift in performance,but 8GB of VRAM is not enough if you intend to keep the dGPU for 3~4 years IMHO. The RX6700XT 12GB is a much better upgrade overall,but OFC Nvidia is better in RT heavy scenarios. Its around an RTX3060TI(maybe a bit better) in rasterised performance and trades blows with an RTX3060 in RT:

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The rasterised performance uplift over an RTX2060 6GB is about 64% at qHD:

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The RX6700XT is getting closer to £300ish. Check on HUKD to see when deals pop up.

The other alternative is to wait another 6~12 months to see what the RX7700XT is like,and whether Nvidia refreshes the RTX4000 series with higher VRAM SKUs.

Lightnix · 25 May 2023 at 11:30

Yeah if you're thinking about a 7600 but are also willing to pay 4060 ti money, the 6700 XT and 6750 XT are definitely worth your attention.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 May 2023 at 11:32

Lightnix said:
Yeah if you're thinking about a 7600 but are also willing to pay 4060 ti money, the 6700 XT and 6750 XT are definitely worth your attention.

The RX6700XT is now getting closer to £300. So it is more like RTX4060 money now!

ZeeWrath · 25 May 2023 at 11:36

I was waiting for these reviews before upgrading from my old 580 but unfortunatley they don't really offer an increase in value

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so £285 + last of us if cashback pays out, seems a much better deal than the current pricing expected for these

At least with more VRAM you can use the highest quality textures even when you have to turn other stuff down to get the fps you want.

JediFragger · 25 May 2023 at 11:36

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The RX6700XT is now getting closer to £300. So it is more like RTX4060 money now!

Cracking little cards tbh!! Had a couple in my time

q974739 · 25 May 2023 at 11:36

What I want do to is upgrade to something that will drive a 1440 ultrawide, but everything seems complete c***. I just want a good option.... or a stopgap I can convince myself isn't a waste?
Which is what I hoped these might be.

JediFragger · 25 May 2023 at 11:36

ZeeWrath said:
I was waiting for these reviews before upgrading from my old 580 but unfortunatley they don't really offer an increase in value

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so £285 + last of us if cashback pays out, seems a much better deal than the current pricing expected for these

At least with more VRAM you can use the highest quality textures even when you have to turn other stuff down to get the fps you want.

Great choice at that money!!! :cool:

JediFragger · 25 May 2023 at 11:37

q974739 said:
or a stopgap

I've used a 6700XT at Ultrawide and found it fine with some compromised settings, might do for a year or two? Esp at £285 w/cashback atm as above...

edit - It's roughly about two-thirds as fast as a 6900XT iirc in RL gameplay.