The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread

Metalface Mark · 4 May 2012 at 18:34

jas72 said:
You have the SFA who punish rangers up to the maximum financial penalities allowed in their rule books then take it a step further by imposing a transfer embargo. This hasn't been sorted out however pressure must be now put on the SFA to rescind this since it's paramount to the saviour of Rangers.

This is a common misconception peddled by the likes of Sandy Jardine. The panel could have expelled Rangers from the league, that was the highest punishment they could give out, they got off pretty lightly all things considered.

Metalface Mark · 4 May 2012 at 18:44

McMav said:
They only get all their money is creditors agree I think. Not quite sure how it works but I'm sure when there was a live blog from another admin firm regarding this and said their fee's would have to be justified and agreed by creditors. Or something like that.

They still all get their money, its why not every company goes into administration, administrators only take on the job if there is money for them to get paid.

spudbynight · 5 May 2012 at 11:16

Metalface Mark said:
Its not just a Scottish thing, Leeds effectively did the same thing.

Yep and that was a disgrace as well.

Football has really turned into a disgusting hive of scum and villany over the last 20 years or so.

Metalface Mark · 6 May 2012 at 16:06

spudbynight said:
Yep and that was a disgrace as well.

Football has really turned into a disgusting hive of scum and villany over the last 20 years or so.

I think the difference with Leeds, they effectively had been punished already by ending up in the 1st division, so it was all kinda swept under the carpet.

Jokester · 6 May 2012 at 18:16

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17967968

The clubs are mindful of a sporting integrity aspect but the commercial benefits may outweigh that

So basically, screw the rules, just give us the cash. Aye the other clubs just want to keep the snouts in the trough.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17975013

But I have a legal responsibility to run Dundee United and a legal responsibility as a director of the SPL

The SPL board is compromised. Conflicts of interests anyone? The disturbing thing is, he only sees it as a problem because their fans might walk, not even an integrity issue!

jamesy505 · 7 May 2012 at 08:17

Morally Rangers go to the 3rd Div.
Financially, Rangers will stay in the SPL. Our often joked about league will be laughed at for evermore when that happens.

I think those making the decision want to punish Rangers to the fullest but cant as it would put their own teams in trouble.

So definitely conflict of interest there.

Metalface Mark · 7 May 2012 at 10:39

jamesy505 said:
Morally Rangers go to the 3rd Div.
Financially, Rangers will stay in the SPL. Our often joked about league will be laughed at for evermore when that happens.

I think those making the decision want to punish Rangers to the fullest but cant as it would put their own teams in trouble.

So definitely conflict of interest there.

There really should be no question at all what happens, it should be the same as Airdrie, your out, your out and have to apply for membership along with other clubs who want in.

Either way this is probably going to kill Scottish football.

Kennysevenfold · 7 May 2012 at 13:00

Title 55 next season i think.

Celtic fans to boycott away grounds of teams that vote to keep the new-co in the spl? they just want the title on a plate every season with us in the 3rd di
vision.

We are going to boycott away games, there going to boycott away games, there just obsessed with Rangers :rolleyes:

Metalface Mark · 7 May 2012 at 13:32

Kennysevenfold said:
Title 55 next season i think.
Celtic fans to boycott away grounds of teams that vote to keep the new-co in the spl? they just want the title on a plate every season with us in the 3rd di
vision.
We are going to boycott away games, there going to boycott away games, there just obsessed with Rangers

There is zero chance Rangers will win the league next season.

You might be surprised to hear this, but I suspect Celtic fans like fans of other clubs just want to see Rangers punished adequately.

afraser2k · 7 May 2012 at 14:12

Metalface Mark said:
There is zero chance Rangers will win the league next season.

You might be surprised to hear this, but I suspect Celtic fans like fans of other clubs just want to see Rangers punished adequately.

They won't be. I think we'll likely see a split vote today on the newco being allowed into the SPL so the SFA will announce their new league proposals. The newco will be invited in as it means the clubs will be absolved of responsibility and in a couple of years boycotts will go back to normal.

Metalface Mark · 7 May 2012 at 14:23

afraser2k said:
They won't be. I think we'll likely see a split vote today on the newco being allowed into the SPL so the SFA will announce their new league proposals. The newco will be invited in as it means the clubs will be absolved of responsibility and in a couple of years boycotts will go back to normal.

To be honest, if the best we got was a reformed 14 or 16 team league, then Id be relatively happy about that, we should have a 16 team league at least, ideally 20 which could see young players thrive in that environment.

afraser2k · 7 May 2012 at 15:40

Just up on the BBC meeting adjourned again until the 30th. :rolleyes:

Kennysevenfold · 7 May 2012 at 15:43

Rangers representatives never turned up, the delay tactics are on.

Kennysevenfold · 7 May 2012 at 15:44

Metalface Mark said:
You might be surprised to hear this, but I suspect Celtic fans like fans of other clubs just want to see Rangers punished adequately.

Which wont happen

afraser2k · 7 May 2012 at 15:46

Kennysevenfold said:
Rangers representatives never turned up, the delay tactics are on.

What happens if the Rangers takeover isn't completed by the end of the season, would the SPL clubs be able to invoke new punishments?

Metalface Mark · 7 May 2012 at 15:47

Kennysevenfold said:
Which wont happen

Probably not, im surprised you would want to see your club let off with financial cheating though, I suppose though as glory hunters, winning at any cost is the main thing though.

afraser2k · 7 May 2012 at 16:20

Statement from the meeting:

However, an SPL spokesperson said the 11 member clubs present at Monday's meeting "unanimously called for the power to deal with any newco application to be moved from the board to the clubs".

"This requires 21 clear days' notice," added the spokesperson. "The clubs will therefore meet again on 30 May to consider a resolution designed to achieve this.

"In the event that an application for transfer of share to a newco is received before 30 May, then it can be dealt with by the SPL board.

So not just a bunch of cowardly chairmen on the SPL board worried about getting the blame for killing off SPL Rangers? Doncaster apparently saying that Rangers administrators asked for the delay.

Swordfish · 7 May 2012 at 17:14

When does the deal on the Rangers reduced salaries end? Is it the End of this month or next?

Metalface Mark · 7 May 2012 at 17:22

Swordfish said:
When does the deal on the Rangers reduced salaries end? Is it the End of this month or next?

Think its next week.

Kennysevenfold · 7 May 2012 at 17:50

Metalface Mark said:
Probably not, im surprised you would want to see your club let off with financial cheating though, I suppose though as glory hunters, winning at any cost is the main thing though.

Of course i would rather my Club get let off, this wasn't mine, or any other fan's fault.
Does every club not have a percentage of there fans as "Glory hunters" You cannot tar us all by this brush.