The Rise of Lonely Single Straight Men

If you want a giggle, may I suggest the Reddit threads r/datingoverthirty and r/datingoverforty, some gold in there, especially the replies. Is it Reddit however, so most of the advice is pure nonsense, but funny nevertheless.
 
adam cool dude said:
Thing is she is 44 so I guess she is looking for guys similar age. Most of the decent guys at that age will be happily married and tied down. At this point of the spectrum you will end up with the complete weirdo's that still live with their mum or have gone through countless relationships because they are just plain weird.
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Yeah, I was going to say the same.

When you hear the 40+ years old women who are single complaining, "Why is dating over 40 so hard!?!?!!" Well its because you shouldn't be dating. You should be settled, married with your husband. Not out there trying to find a man like in your 20's. Maybe society has a small part to play in that but its mainly down to mother nature.

After 40 you are only left with 3 types of single men,

Men who are right out weird and that's why they are single in the first place, as mentioned above.
Men who have their life in order, have options and can easily date women in their 20's.
Men who have been divorced and don't want to waste their time and resources going through all that again at 40+.
 
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Quartz said:
I think people in this thread should read this post on Quora that gives a very different perspective on the debate:

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What's your opinion on incels?

Susanna Viljanen's answer: Serving in the military was pretty much walking the famous proverbial mile in the men’s shoes - and yes, if the women’s situation in the society looks bad, it was a good idea to check it out at the other side of the table. That of the men is downright desperate. I have...
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Interesting read. Some men are screwed i guess.
 
The issue seems to be men who aren't "screwed" and their dissatisfaction with this situation :) I am probably a little strange as in my sixties, on a scale of 1 to 10 of pleasurable activities important to me I put sexual activity below about 6. Forced to choose gratifying things to give up entirely sex would be abandoned before many other pleasures. Probably low testosterone or something, but it seems I am saved a lot of stress and probably expense, too :) It may be because I was rampant in my earlier years and got it all out of my system, which is probably a good job as the things I used to get up to would be publicly censured or worse by many of the the modern women.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
The issue seems to be men who aren't "screwed" and their dissatisfaction with this situation :) I am probably a little strange as in my sixties, on a scale of 1 to 10 of pleasurable activities important to me I put sexual activity below about 6. Forced to choose gratifying things to give up entirely sex would be abandoned before many other pleasures. Probably low testosterone or something, but it seems I am saved a lot of stress and probably expense, too :) It may be because I was rampant in my earlier years and got it all out of my system, which is probably a good job as the things I used to get up to would be publicly censured or worse by many of the the modern women.
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Now I'm intrigued! What kind of things?

I can assure you that I'm not easily shockable when it comes to that kind of thing ;)
 
Bassmansam said:
Interesting read. Some men are screwed i guess.
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It's fallacious though.

There are virgins. There are men who have had few sexual partners and men who have had loads of sex.

The only thing I can see is that relating low sexual interest to IQ is not bulletproof science nor research.
Some of us want monogamy and want to settle early. My first woman was at 20 years old. I never had any thought of being let down by the opposite or victimizing myself. I said I want sex and love so went and got it.. and did.

Because I never over thought it much I was open to whatever came my way and sadly she died 3 years later due to a heart condition.

Although IQ is a good measure it misses everything else not picked up by IQ tests.

This coming from a guy with a top 2% IQ himself. I don't flaunt it but I do relate to the inability to talk big things to small minds.

Also 2% of over 7.5 billion is a lot of potential sex and love. People just love to keep themselves buried in self victimization and fear changing themselves.

High IQ but self limited to the small percentage? Bad at math?
 
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Tired9 said:
It's fallacious though.

There are virgins. There are men who have had few sexual partners and men who have had loads of sex.

The only thing I can see is that relating low sexual interest to IQ is not bulletproof science nor research.
Some of us want monogamy and want to settle early. My first woman was at 20 years old. I never had any thought of being let down by the opposite or victimizing myself. I said I want sex and love so went and got it.. and did.

Because I never over thought it much I was open to whatever came my way and sadly she died 3 years later due to a heart condition.

Although IQ is a good measure it misses everything else not picked up by IQ tests.

This coming from a guy with a top 2% IQ himself. I don't flaunt it but I do relate to the inability to talk big things to small minds.

Also 2% of over 7.5 billion is a lot of potential sex and love. People just love to keep themselves buried in self victimization and fear changing themselves.

High IQ but self limited to the small percentage? Bad at math?
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For some reason this popped into my head reading that.

 
Bassmansam said:
Interesting read. Some men are screwed i guess.
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Although this study may have taken some effort I can assure you that it has simplified the process of courting within the human race massively.

There are so many other ways to turn someone's attention, the real art of it is to maintain that attention over a prolonged period of time.

Study that and then tell me the ingredients of successfully courting.
 
Ayahuasca said:
There was a link to it in the "interesting read" Quora post you've just commented on... https://www.researchgate.net/publication/333658751_The_Dark_Triad_and_the_quality_of_sexual_life
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www.psychologytoday.com

The Incel Ideology

Incels and their means of thinking are not new. At their core, they struggle with "thinking errors" or cognitive distortions.
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Why Do Narcissists Play the Victim?

People with narcissistic personality disorder may resort to playing the victim in some scenarios.
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One contradicts the other.

It's alarming that normal sexual functioning would even be labelled as such.

From the psychologytoday link.

""You ask out girls every chance you can but they shut you off. You cut your hair nice, shave beard nice, have a car, do your best to get ahead and you have a motorcycle and you’re kind and EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU ARE AROUND A WOMAN THEY ARE TREATING YOU LIKE THE WEIRD UNCLE OR LIKE A GODDAMN INFERIOR BEING and yet you meet the guys these women married and they are arrogant, crude, lying obnoxious pricks. So then you AS A NORMAL GUY sign yourself up for POF (Plenty of Fish), Tinder, Match, etc and you message HUNDREDS of women like 400 on POF and you swipe right on EVERY tinder profile and you wait a week or 2 and check back to see how many messages you got and you have ZERO messages on POF and one message on tinder."



Funny thing is, the person labelling them all these things is also everything he labels others, he just harbors it all internally and plays Mr nice.
Some people are outwards with their energy, some are a mix of inbetween, some are way more internal with their world.

Here we see the musings of someone with low self-esterem choosing to place blame elsewhere other than on the self, rather this to me is not attractive, I would never be attracted to this in a female, why should a female be attracted to this in a man?
You see, you demand it! WHY ARE THEY NOT ATTRACTED TO ME!
You can't go fully to war on the female as you will be seen as bad so must factor in the males too, you can't go to war on yourself or you would have no argument left, well not one based on the objective in your own mind.


You see, the issue is women are more intelligent than you think they are and men are too, you think because you act nice don't mean you are nice.

There are two sides to every human, the dark and the light, you cannot be the full you without accepting your dark side and you also need that side of you or you will never survive.

I overthink a lot, I dream of a paradise in my head for humanity... it won't ever exist, but on a small scale some of it is workable.
It is a fantasy.

You are human like everyone else, so why are you so against your human nature?
Sure we are not all 100% the same, stop being scared of the other, be a part of them, learn to understand that your victimizing of yourself and blaming others is also your dark side.
 
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