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Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark 4K Native + Ray Tracing Ultra Quality Preset FSR Disabled 7900 XTX Nitro 49.19 Average FPS
@Poneros Is that any good? FPS hit from recording is 2-3 FPS.

EDIT - I think the benchmark is bugged. Despite it saying FSR was off I am pretty sure it was still enabled and running in Quality mode, since I got 59 FPS with Balanced mode earlier. Cyberbug 2077.
 
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Cyberpunk 2077 Benchmark 4K Native + Ray Tracing Ultra Quality Preset FSR Disabled 7900 XTX Nitro 49.19 Average FPS
@Poneros Is that any good? FPS hit from recording is 2-3 FPS.

EDIT - I think the benchmark is bugged. Despite it saying FSR was off I am pretty sure it was still enabled and running in Quality mode, since I got 59 FPS with Balanced mode earlier. Cyberbug 2077.
I think the presets change and add FSR automatically, I know LTT iirc ran into this problem and published bad results with one of the GPU tests they did. It's usually best to change settings & restart game, though changing between FSR levels & resolution has been issue-free for me.
 
I'm not a financial whale, I got my 4090 on a pay monthly scheme for the next 12 months as I imagine a fair few others have :)
A whale isn't necessarily somebody rich, just someone willing to spend far more than most.
Nothing personal here, I used to be younger and foolish as well, I was one of the Mechwarrior Online "legendary founders" and I spent more than my fair share on World of Tanks.

I wish you a lot of fun with your card and I sincerely hope you're getting your worth out of it, we just have a very different concept of reasonable budget for leisure. :D
 
A whale isn't necessarily somebody rich, just someone willing to spend far more than most.
Nothing personal here, I used to be younger and foolish as well, I was one of the Mechwarrior Online "legendary founders" and I spent more than my fair share on World of Tanks.

I wish you a lot of fun with your card and I sincerely hope you're getting your worth out of it, we just have a very different concept of reasonable budget for leisure. :D

Why is he foolish for buying something he wants and makes use of (and is actually something tangible unlike in game spend)
 
Why is he foolish for buying something he wants and makes use of (and is actually something tangible unlike in game spend)

I don't think he means me but rather people who spend beyond their means which can land them in financial difficulty.

Some of my co-workers have done that in the past and it's taken them a hell of a long time to recover from their decisions due to not having any financial foresight.
 
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I don't think he means me but rather people who spend beyond their means which can land them in financial difficulty.

Some of my co-workers have done that in the past and it's taken them a hell of a long time to recover from their decisions due to not having any financial foresight.

Oh yes, I see it could be interpreted that way too. I just read it the way I did.
 
Why is he foolish for buying something he wants and makes use of (and is actually something tangible unlike in game spend)
Like I said, nothing personal, I come from a culture where paying on credit is acceptable only for big, essential purchases such as a house or a car.
When I call the 4090 a whale card or a Tupolev Tu-144 it's not to disparage their users but rather as a warning about using it as a realistic benchmark as its pricing puts it as a card 1% or less will purchase and basically more of a technological showcase, especially as you require the very best PC components to be able to properly run it.
This puts the total system cost as the equivalent of several median paychecks for most countries, which is a big part of the issue.

I've been gaming since 1988 so I can tell you that such a system would proportionally cost the same as a PC in the 1980s (inflation adjusted) but that was usually seen as a family investment to prepare yourself and the kids for the future just like buying a big encyclopedia (if you were born after 1990 it could be harder for you to understand it).
To put the 4090 in proportion, when the 3dfx was released it costed an outrageous half of a paycheck, basically triple than most video cards and that was already pretty hard to justify, now we're being asked a full paycheck or likely more for that, especially when the most popular GPUs on Steam tends to be sub-$300 cards.

Most people won't be spending that kind of money so they fall in one of the "traps":

- Team green will happily rent you their GPU via streaming services
- Team red will gladly welcome you to the console world either directly or via gamepass

If you guys think latency will be an issue forever I have bad news for you. I worked for an ISP until last year and I was in meetings with NVIDIA reps about their game streaming platform. Without going too much in details (NDA), if you're happy with a roughly 10% cut of the pie (minus hosting and setup costs) any ISP could have an NVIDIA streaming cluster in their datacenter or a cheaper deal setting up a dedicated connection to NVIDIA own clusters and you could cover a country the size of Italy at an acceptable latency with just 2 locations.

Unless Intel or another player will come and take over the mass market neither player has any incentive on providing affordable GPUs as that will cannibalize their other segments.
Valve recognised this and are setting up their slice of the pie via their own console line (of which the Steam Deck is just the start), DYI will get relegated to yet another gaming winter of being second class gamers until performance per dollar will get acceptable again.
 
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