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The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.

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After some thought I slightly reconsidered my position about the RTX4090.
I still think it's a whale card but what you're doing is basically paying triple the amount of a reasonably priced card for the privilege of being a generation ahead.
Nvidia is doing a masterful job in milking early adopters and obtaining wonderful margins in doing so, sadly their strategy is also leaving their (and AMD to a lesser extent) flank exposed on the mass market side, which is going to lead to interesting consequences...
 
TNA said:
Meh, bet Nexus will manage to some how get it working on 10GB :p
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Sadly 10GB wasn't enough for several 4-8k texture packs in cp 2077 when I tried it, the shortage of vram was 100% genuine showcase but still managed to keep 30 or so fps and best of all, it returns to normal when you leave problematic areas and isn't stuck at single digits no matter what..... ;)







Hogwarts this week, hopefully a good RT implementation. If reviews are decent, will probably buy it.
 
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VRAM requirements are only going to go up what with the focus on very high res textures happening more and more.

I think we need to start a "go fund me" for Nexus to get a 4080 16GB :D
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If anyone is willing to get me a 4080 or better yet a 4090, I'll happily accept, FE only please :D

Only a matter of time till I cave though, dlss 3/fg is looking like a killer feature to have now :cool: 3080 still doing me very well at 3440x1440 though.... but more and more games are becoming problematic for anything but a 4080/4090 unless willing to sacrifice settings... :mad: :eek:
 
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If anyone is willing to get me a 4080 or better yet a 4090, I'll happily accept, FE only please :D

Only a matter of time till I cave though, dlss 3/fg is looking like a killer feature to have now :cool: 3080 still doing me very well at 3440x1440 though.... but more and more games are becoming problematic for anything but a 4080/4090 unless willing to sacrifice settings... :mad: :eek:
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Yup. I recon I will be fine personally with 12GB until next gen cards arrive at 3440x1440. Will want minimum 16GB at that point though. Who knows, I may even end up with someone‘s 4090 instead. I don’t mind, just as long as it is priced right :cry:
 
Nexus18 said:
Only a matter of time till I cave though, dlss 3/fg is looking like a killer feature to have now :cool: 3080 still doing me very well at 3440x1440 though.... but more and more games are becoming problematic for anything but a 4080/4090 unless willing to sacrifice settings... :mad: :eek:
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Just age and let increasingly decrepit eyes ruin everything for you anyway, trust me!
 
Even though AMD GPUs have an inherent need for extra vram, I get VRAM overflow quite easily even on 16 GB (RX 6800) so it's definitely going to be a thing for only the flagship cards with lots of vram. And that's now with only some light texture modding in cyberpunk, and that's for 4K (from 720p - FSR2 UP; ofc RT max). It's actually quite funny how easily it starts to choke. Only really stable at 1080p (FSR2 Q) with any kind of breathing room. It's not apparent when you've just started playing but as you keep playing & move through the areas then it becomes an issue.
 
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Even though AMD GPUs have an inherent need for extra vram
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What does that mean exactly? Because when I compare VRAM usage side by side in all of my games, it's pretty much even across the board. Some games the 4090 will use more at the same settings, and sometimes the 7900 XTX will use more. There is no clear evidence that one always uses more than the other that I can see. One thing to consider though, ReBar can bump up video memory usage and by default, it's enabled for the AMD cards in everything, whereas Nvidia have it enabled in a dozen games only.

In other news, I've been comparing tuned 4090 vs tuned 7900 XTX in Cyberpunk with ReBar on for all, 4K using the Ultra Ray Tracing preset with no DLSS/FSR.

4090 Suprim X - Repasted with liquid metal and updated the BIOS from the default Suprim X Gaming BIOS with a 520W limit to a Galax 660W BIOS.
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7900 XTX Nitro - Repasted with liquid metal using the default performance BIOS of 464W.

I've pulled some data from Kitguru's 7900 XTX review where they run Cyberpunk built in benchmark at the same resolution and settings without image reconstruction.
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Kitguru have the 4090 FE at 40.1 FPS, with the 7900 XTX (MBA) at 19.1 FPS. A difference of 109%.

4090 Suprim X Tuned +190Mhz Core and +1499Mhz Memory achieved 48.43 FPS. A 20% improvement over the Kitguru FE score.
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7900 XTX Nitro Tuned 3200Mhz Core and 2800Mhz Memory with Fast Timings achieved 27.72 FPS. A 45% improvement over the Kitgur MBA score.
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With both cards tuned, the difference between them is 74%. The 4090 was pulling around 550-575W during the test. The 7900 XTX was locked at 464W throughout the benchmark sequence. The 7900 XTX Nitro can approach stock 4080 levels of RT performance in Cyberpunk if tuned, albeit at a higher power draw. Please note, both cards are 24/7 stable at these settings. :)
 
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On the topic of RT, At 4K highest settings, Ray traced reflections, Shadows etc... DLSS2 set to Quality with Frame Generation on we can expect north of 100FPS in Hogwarts Legacy on a 4090 :)

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NVIDIA RTX 4090 runs Hogwarts Legacy with over 100fps at 4K DLSS 3 Quality with Max Settings & Full Ray Tracing

Warner Bros has provided us with a review code for Hogwarts Legacy so we've decided to share the ten first minutes from its PC version.
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At native 4K/Max Settings/Ray Tracing, we were getting a minimum of 42fps and an average of 46fps. With DLSS 2 Quality, we were able to hit a minimum of 72fps and an average of 76fps. And with DLSS 3 Quality, we were getting over 100fps at all times.
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4090 with dlss quality @ 4k maxed = about 75 fps

So I should be ok with my measly 10gb 3080 @ 3440x1440 with a few settings dropped or/and using dlss balanced (maybe performance mode if it's a good implementation)
 
I will say that FG in Cyberpunk is impressive, it definitely makes the game feel smoother vs native. Cyberpunk feels very laggy under 60s so its quite a noticeable improvement once enabled, even with a 4090 which can't handle 4K native with Ultra RT - which in itself was a bit of a shock.

However, I found it much less impressive in the other games I tested, Spiderman and Dying Light 2. I did not like the increases in latency and it felt noticeable In those two titles I would rather run native or if forced, use image reconstruction.
 
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