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The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.

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Of course the other takeaway is that Intel ARC does really badly too:
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And that's Intel spending a fair transistor budget on their RT hardware.

It's almost as if CDPR have designed this with only Nvidia in mind.
 
RT is hardware agnostic. Nvidia can sing and dance calling it RTX all day long, it's still ray traycing and supported by anything with RT cores.

Forgetting about frame gen and upscaling for a minute, the raw numbers speak for themselves, if the GPU's RT cores and the GPU driver were engineered to be efficient, then the raw difference would be much smaller, only one company currently has been evolving their RT hardware and driver specifically for performance, and the supporting technologies then make it perform even better.
 
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You gotta love the Nvidia fan base. Nvidia price most out of a decent upgrade so what do there crapped on customers do, they go and pay them a monthly subscription so they can play a Nvidia RT showcase :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . You got to hand it to Nvidia they really are a smart company as they just can't seem to go far enough to turn off there customers.
 
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Of course it would be an RDNA user who chimes in with jabs in an RT thread :p

Raster is still king for me and i don't rate Cyberpunk as a game but the effects are decent i will admit that. Still i am of the opinion RT is overrated atm due to hardware limitations. Amd are far more limited than Nvidia especially in Cyberpunk, most other games for some reason the gap is way smaller. I won't complain i got my 7900xt for £660 so i am more than happy to miss out on high levels of RT. I play at high refresh fps which matters more to me. I didn't get a 1440p 240hz monitor to have console fps.
 
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You gotta love the Nvidia fan base. Nvidia price most out of a decent upgrade so what do there crapped on customers do, they go and pay them a monthly subscription so they can play a Nvidia RT showcase :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . You got to hand it to Nvidia they really are a smart company as they just can't seem to go far enough to turn off there customers.

And?

What makes more sense atm:

- paying £1000+

or

- paying £18 a month to get basically the same experience

?

If we had loads of games where path tracing was out then yeah buying a gpu outright makes more sense but at this moment in time, it simply isn't worth it but alas, as shown, that is going to change going forward with nvidia leading the way for others to follow in their footsteps.

I love how people are referring to this game as if it is purely just a nvidia tech showcase and nothing else, yet all the reviews show otherwise lmao, the dlc has been highly rated alone and quite frankly, as a game it ***** all over starfield.

Again, you want to experience next gen visuals, well, tough luck, we only got one company pushing the boat, seems amd customers are happy to pay £££(£) for 3 year old performance that could have been had for the same price or cheaper all those years ago :o
 
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And?

What makes more sense atm:

- paying £1000+

or

- paying £18 a month to get basically the same experience

?

If we had loads of games where path tracing was out then yeah buying a gpu outright makes more sense but at this moment in time, it simply isn't worth it but alas, as shown, that is going to change going forward with nvidia leading the way for others to follow in their footsteps.

I love how people are referring to this game as if it is purely just a nvidia tech showcase and nothing else, yet all the reviews show otherwise lmao, the dlc has been highly rated alone and quite frankly, as a game it ***** all over starfield.

Again, you want to experience next gen visuals, well, tough luck, we only got one company pushing the boat, seems amd customers are happy to pay £££(£) for 3 year old performance that could have been had for the same price or cheaper all those years ago :o
If your 3080 went bust what are you buying for £650?

 
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If your 3080 went bust what are you buying for £650?

I would just buy a 4090 as there is no other gpu worth buying unless a 4080 were to drop to £700/800.

If I didn't care for ray tracing, ray reconstruction, frame generation or upscaling or dldsr then it would be a 7900xtx but alas, amd are far too behind on what are becoming necessary technologies to have.
 
And?

What makes more sense atm:

- paying £1000+

or

- paying £18 a month to get basically the same experience

?

If we had loads of games where path tracing was out then yeah buying a gpu outright makes more sense but at this moment in time, it simply isn't worth it but alas, as shown, that is going to change going forward with nvidia leading the way for others to follow in their footsteps.

I love how people are referring to this game as if it is purely just a nvidia tech showcase and nothing else, yet all the reviews show otherwise lmao, the dlc has been highly rated alone and quite frankly, as a game it ***** all over starfield.

Again, you want to experience next gen visuals, well, tough luck, we only got one company pushing the boat, seems amd customers are happy to pay £££(£) for 3 year old performance that could have been had for the same price or cheaper all those years ago :o
What's your 3 year old 3080 saying in Starfield against my 3 year old tech or pretty much any game that's not Cyberpunk :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . In the close to 3 years that Cyberpunk has been around i have enjoyed many good games where as you seem to be on your 20th run through of mirror simulator and now paying a subscription to walk around staring at puddles. You are only having to pay a subscription as Nvidia nearly doubled the price of your 3080's replacement. As much as i like gaming i was never gonna pay rip off prices so had to wait on a card that made a bit of sense. Only took just over 5 years but glad i never paid into horrible pricing.
 
Guy on the DF video seemed to sum it all up pretty nicely.

"The Ray Reconstruction is really cool, but it definitely adds things that can be worse for some people. Without it, you get a bit worse reflections, sparkly lights on some surfaces, but a much better experience over not having RT on of course. With RR on, the sparkly lights become these weird smeary contrast/color shifting areas on walls and floors. You also get blurry or less sharp things visually, when those things seem better, they are often hampered by what looks like over sharpening, which kind of ruins the benefit. So it really feels like you can choose better reflections, or better RT experience overall with Path Tracing. DLSS has its own issues, even just having it on creates shimmer on cars and worse reflections. There's clearly no perfect settings, NVidia's tech made it so you really have to watch these and experience it yourself, then decide what you'd rather sacrifice."
 
What's your 3 year old 3080 saying in Starfield against my 3 year old tech or pretty much any game that's not Cyberpunk :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: . In the close to 3 years that Cyberpunk has been around i have enjoyed many good games where as you seem to be on your 20th run through of mirror simulator and now paying a subscription to walk around staring at puddles. You are only having to pay a subscription as Nvidia nearly doubled the price of your 3080's replacement. As much as i like gaming i was never gonna pay rip off prices so had to wait on a card that made a bit of sense. Only took just over 5 years but glad i never paid into horrible pricing.

Plenty of games with ray tracing where rdna 3 is only matching ampere, sorry unless you are only looking at amd gimped ones.... :o

Mirror sim? Looking at puddles? Spoken like someone who really has no clue on what RT achieves. I don't know what it is with you lot, nvidia really did kill it with their RTX marketing as jimmies are well and truly rustled.

I'm paying for subscription for 1-2 months because I'm not paying £1000+ to play as it is right now, 1 game which my 3080 (and any gpu except for a 4080/4090) can't handle, not sure why that is such a bad move? Other than "nvidia bad!!!!".....

Well horses for courses, I think £660 is absolutely terrible value for a 7900xt. Not having a good upscaling solution alone is enough of a reason to avoid amd entirely now.
 
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