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The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.

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And this is why you don't "upgrade" from ampere to rdna 3 if you care about ray tracing folks:

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AMD need to get their act together asap on ray/path tracing. Not only are they now 3-4 years behind on ray tracing performance but they are also now significantly behind in ray tracing IQ. And before people bang on about:

- it's just one game that has dlss 3.5/RR - look at history, you know this won't be the case for very long
- RR can only be used with path tracing, nvidia have already stated they are working on bringing it to just normal ray tracing too and chances are, it will be backported to all the currents game using dlss and ray tracing. I also wouldn't be surprised if it somehow gets modded in (we all heard frame gen and dlss wouldn't be possible, well puredark etc. have proved it is)

I do hope there is a good ray reconstruction solution for all at some point though as this kind of thing will actually end up making RT very much a nvidia only thing if it gets widely adopted/implemented i.e. with rdna 3, it was usable/passable but as of right now, this whole thing is just further cementing nvidia as being the only choice if you value ray tracing.
No this is why you just turn RT/PT off. Things might change when a £500 GPU can get the performance required. And/or when developers start working with it at the beginning of their project not at the end.
 
If amd had more marketshare and nvidia weren't about, we would be stuck in 2d gaming :cry: Nvidia are a necessary evil to keep pushing us into the future.

No this is why you just turn RT/PT off. Things might change when a £500 GPU can get the performance required. And/or when developers start working with it at the beginning of their project not at the end.

That's great and all but if you want to enjoy ray tracing, you ain't got a choice.
 
If amd had more marketshare and nvidia weren't about, we would be stuck in 2d gaming :cry: Nvidia are a necessary evil to keep pushing us into the future.



That's great and all but if you want to enjoy ray tracing, you ain't got a choice.
I have an ampere GPU it just cant do RT either. And your 3080 is just about holding in if you like low fps. Maybe we should all subscribe to cloud gaming??
 
The future will be AMD and intel APUs if GPU pricing keep rising at their current rate.

TBH, I think the future for the masses will be cloud gaming, every companies desire/goal is to have an ecosystem where customers are paying not just a one of fee every year or 2 or 3 but every month/year and to me it seems like microsoft are trying to go down this road themselves. Nvidia definitely is aiming to get there.

I have an ampere GPU it just cant do RT either. And your 3080 is just about holding in if you like low fps. Maybe we should all subscribe to cloud gaming??
Well you joke but reality is that may end up being the path many will have to take.

I wouldn't really have a problem with cloud gaming for an acceptable fee tbh as long as:

- uptime is guaranteed for 99% of the time
- no time restrictions
- works on most games

It's a hard act for likes of nvidia etc. though as the amount of processing power and overhead required for this would be crazy.
 
This video really does a good job showing how much better reflections are in motion



The reflections in motion are so damn good with dlss performance now:

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That was probably my only main complaint with ray tracing and it's reflections especially when using lower dlss/upscaling presets.

Anyway, enough of dicking about on a peasant 3080, shall be playing on the £18 4080 this weekend :p



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And what exactly is your criteria for 2d gaming, as 3d games date back to the 80s, long before nvidia was around...

I think you kind of missed the joke, as in, if nvidia weren't about, we would be stuck with amd and never evolving onto better things, whether we like it or not, nvidia are always first and then amd come along "oh hang on guys, we also have a solution, we just need to start working on it and it'll be ready in 2 or 3 years and then take another few years to get as good as the comp."

Or GeForce Now apparently :p:D

TBH, it's kind of crazy when you think of it, netflix is what £16 for the best package? And it's a pile of crap with the content there, not to mention, it's not exactly requiring the same level of processing power that you would need compared to cloud gaming.

£18 well spent, all the savings that will be made to fund the 5080/5090 :p ;) :D
 
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Ray reconstruction also dropping vram usage.
 
TBH, it's kind of crazy when you think of it, netflix is what £16 for the best package? And it's a pile of crap with the content there, not to mention, it's not exactly requiring the same level of processing power that you would need compared to cloud gaming.

£18 well spent, all the savings that will be made to fund the 5080/5090 :p ;) :D

£18 today...

Wait until more and more people jump on. Won't be long it will be £25, then £30!

You will the say yeah, but a RTX 6080 costs £1500, so £30 a month is a bargain!!

:p ;) :D
 

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Very interesting. I can't think of a reason why though
 
£18 today...

Wait until more and more people jump on. Won't be long it will be £25, then £30!

You will the say yeah, but a RTX 6080 costs £1500, so £30 a month is a bargain!!

:p ;) :D

Haha well yeah that is the case with everything really.

Either way, as it is right now, I'll take the saving being made :p ;) Not to mention, can cancel and reactivate for when new/better games come along so won't always be paying £18 every month.

Very interesting. I can't think of a reason why though
Imagine the manual approach with denoisers was causing some overhead?
 
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Haha well yeah that is the case with everything really.

Either way, as it is right now, I'll take the saving being made :p ;) Not to mention, can cancel and reactivate for when new/better games come along so won't always be paying £18 every month.


Imagine the manual approach with denoisers was causing some overhead?

Can't argue with that mate. Might try it myself if a game worthy of it comes along. Can't think of anything right now though. Maybe a must play UE5 game next year :D
 
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