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The RT Related Games, Benchmarks, Software, Etc Thread.

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mrk said:
I think this year Robocop will be the only well optimised UE5 game tbh. The demo runs amazingly well even without upscaling, even better with upscaling though and for once, XeSS looks excellent on it on an Nvidia card lol.
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Robocop visuals are pretty dated imo. Lighting is ok but in a lot of ways, the game looks pretty dated like ps 4 pro levels, not to mention, how dead and small the areas are, performance could be better given the level of visuals.

CP 2077 has ruined me for it's visuals to performance and it's going to be very hard to top. I'm really hoping avatar does better but these days, you can pretty much just expect that games are going to run like **** :o

TNA said:
Couldn't bring myself to pay £30. Rather just game one setting lower. £18 was a nice price. But it did not last long :p
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I'll only pay if I'm playing any demanding games where the 3080 doesn't cut it (cp still looks great with ray tracing but path tracing just takes it to another level so well worth the money), completed phantom liberty and doubt I'll play much more now since already played the main game 3 times. Much better value than both netflix and amazon combined :p
 
Nexus18 said:
Robocop visuals are pretty dated imo. Lighting is ok but in a lot of ways, the game looks pretty dated like ps 4 pro levels, not to mention, how dead and small the areas are, performance could be better given the level of visuals.

CP 2077 has ruined me for it's visuals to performance and it's going to be very hard to top. I'm really hoping avatar does better but these days, you can pretty much just expect that games are going to run like **** :o



I'll only pay if I'm playing any demanding games where the 3080 doesn't cut it (cp still looks great with ray tracing but path tracing just takes it to another level so well worth the money), completed phantom liberty and doubt I'll play much more now since already played the main game 3 times. Much better value than both netflix and amazon combined :p
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Yea. I would only ever do it for a month to play a certain must play game so not bad from that perspective. Still, much more than £20 I think will put many off.
 
Well on the positive side the first Alan Wake was a glorified walking sim, so if this walks in those footsteps then you can rest assured you can just as well enjoy a playthrough of it on youtube, so not much missed there. :P

But you know there's at least a glimmer of hope in the fact that it looks like it's mostly GPU bound, which is very reminiscent of the situation with Quantum Break on PC. Over time you can just brute force that away with newer GPUs, so it's much better than CPU (or God forbid, API or engine) troubles. Actually that was pretty much the start of games that relied on reconstruction tech in order to run at all, tho in that case it was absolutely disgusting and the ghosting effect was sickening.
 
Grim5 said:
Alan Wake 2 has high systemi requirements, AMD GPUs left out from path tracing

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So another trash level game. £1100 card can't run 4k without destroying the image quality with dlss performance which we all know is pointless. In most games with RT the 4070 can't match a 7900xt in RT because Devs know where the limit is to keep the majority able to play the game at a decent fps.The Graph is saying that a 6800xt can run low RT but a 7900xtx can't manage medium. Proper fail if you ask me but Spiderman 2 is coming soon which is RT only and will crap all over this game most likely. Is this Nvidia sponsored by any chance.
 
TheRealDeal said:
So another trash level game. £1100 card can't run 4k without destroying the image quality with dlss performance which we all know is pointless. In most games with RT the 4070 can't match a 7900xt in RT because Devs know where the limit is to keep the majority able to play the game at a decent fps.The Graph is saying that a 6800xt can run low RT but a 7900xtx can't manage medium. Proper fail if you ask me but Spiderman 2 is coming soon which is RT only and will crap all over this game most likely. Is this Nvidia sponsored by any chance.
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Dumb hot take of the year award nominee
 
TheRealDeal said:
So another trash level game. £1100 card can't run 4k without destroying the image quality with dlss performance which we all know is pointless. In most games with RT the 4070 can't match a 7900xt in RT because Devs know where the limit is to keep the majority able to play the game at a decent fps.The Graph is saying that a 6800xt can run low RT but a 7900xtx can't manage medium.
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+1

79XTX omission is genius Nv marketing, it's implying/convincing everyone, the 79XTX can't run RT'ing!

For the first time ever, Nv has set the precedent to change game System requirements to RT and PT to omit RT Ultra requirements@4K, causing marketing damage to AMDs 79x/t-because NV 'suggested' to introduce the New PT and RT combined High and Ultra requirements@4K!


And that's why Nv is King in the gpu space, as I keep saying they are so far ahead because they are the best in the business because the are ruthless, absolutely ruthless!
 
Grim5 said:
Dumb hot take of the year award nominee
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Yea you paid around £1500 for a card that most likely will need DLSS upscaling assuming you game at 4k to get Max graphics at a playable fps rate in this game. You then have the cheek to call me dumb lol. This world i tell ya. The fourth road bridge is calling me for a base jump no parachute.
 
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I didn't say you were dumb, I said the hot take was dumb, when you tried to imply that Spider-Man 2's RT is better than Alan Wake 2's path tracing, when in reality Remedy's last game, Control, already has far superior RT than Spider-Man 2
 
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Grim5 said:
I didn't say you were dumb, I said the hot take was dumb, when you tried to imply that Spider-Man 2's RT is better than Alan Wake 2's path tracing, when in reality Remedy's last game, Control, already has far superior RT than Spider-Man 2
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Let's be honest Spiderman 2 looks better than Control image wise. It is RT only on RDNA 1. RDNA 3 is far superior yet everytime Nvidia get involved with a game AMD cards may as well be raster cards only.
 
TheRealDeal said:
So another trash level game. £1100 card can't run 4k without destroying the image quality with dlss performance which we all know is pointless. In most games with RT the 4070 can't match a 7900xt in RT because Devs know where the limit is to keep the majority able to play the game at a decent fps.The Graph is saying that a 6800xt can run low RT but a 7900xtx can't manage medium. Proper fail if you ask me but Spiderman 2 is coming soon which is RT only and will crap all over this game most likely. Is this Nvidia sponsored by any chance.
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Nvidia have improved these lower modes considerably to the point it is much more usable, all of the testing by DF etc. have proven this (obviously you aren't going to want to use it at 1080P and more for the likes of 3440x1440 and 4k). Yes it's not as good as native or quality modes in motion but to say "pointless" is just silly. Only one that is pointless is amds since they don't care about improving the IQ for their upscaler, you can literally use dlss performance and still get better IQ than AMDs balanced fsr. Intels xess is also very good too.

tommybhoy said:
And that's why Nv is King in the gpu space, as I keep saying they are so far ahead because they are the best in the business because the are ruthless, absolutely ruthless!
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And yet amd do nothing to bring the fight to improve their weaknesses because they simply don't care about the dgpu space, what can you do when reality is there is only one competing in this race, well intel are at least putting the effort in anyway so not all hope is lost yet.

TheRealDeal said:
Let's be honest Spiderman 2 looks better than Control image wise. It is RT only on RDNA 1. RDNA 3 is far superior yet everytime Nvidia get involved with a game AMD cards may as well be raster cards only.
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Because nvidia aren't holding back the RT effects in terms of draw distance, resolution, where and how RT is being applied.

CP 2077 is and still will be the king in terms of performance to visuals on offer.

There are plenty of nvidia sponsored games where RDNA 3 is performing how they should with regards to RT i.e. on par with top end ampere.

RT is simply not a focus for AMD and the customer/fan base seem to still insist that it's not a factor for them so why do amd fans still get outraged when nvidia do better in RT? For the last what 3-4 years, if you care about RT in any way possible, you simply don't buy amd and go nvidia.
 
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Also, for all we know, there could be a valid reason why amd are not listed at the top end i.e. like what happened with ratchet and clank, cp 2077 where ray tracing wasn't enabled on amd for a long time due to issues or perhaps whatever way path/ray tracing has been implemented in the game has made it unusable for amd at the higher graphical preset ala like with remix titles where it is a complete no go for amd due to artifacting and being a slideshow.
 
Lol comparing spiderman 2 to alan wake 2. What? Spooderman2 only has RT reflections, that’s it. AW2 is fully pathtraced, looks miles ahead visually, it’s gonna blow some minds, just like cp2077 did in 2.0. If ps5 had a 4090 in it and sm2 was pathtraced we could be having this conversation.

Sm2 barely looks better than sm1. Not even gonna go into gameplay cause we’re talking graphics only.

Ps: RT only in sm2 means it forces Rt reflections in all modes, not that it has any other RT effects except reflections. Maybe (?) it has shadows too not 100% sure but not the most important part which is GI and even reflection wise it’s limited by roughness just like most games that had to run on ‘next-gen’ consoles vs pcs. On PCs RT is almost always pushed ‘further’ in same games vs consoles and suffer on AMD hardware… cause it’s hardware that is far behind RTwise.
 
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