The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

humbug · 10 Sep 2019 at 21:59

RavenXXX2 said:
Yeah, thinking my volts are a bit high but I guess it's because I have good cooling...

What is your cooling? my AIO is on its way out, time for a new one.

RavenXXX2 · 10 Sep 2019 at 22:02

noctua nh u12s, I did the blobs of paste over the two dies and that knocked 3c off from a max of 63c running R15.

humbug · 10 Sep 2019 at 22:11

RavenXXX2 said:
noctua nh u12s, I did the blobs of paste over the two dies and that knocked 3c off from a max of 63c running R15.

Good old Noctua, dem is some good temps. i just ran CPU-Z with in 10 thread mode with all my fans spinning 100%, the volts and Mhz do go up the cooler it runs, with 8 threads i managed to get it to under 65c and it was running at 4.1Ghz with 1.39v.

Yes i think given your good temps everything looks normal.

michty_me · 10 Sep 2019 at 23:04

RavenXXX2 said:
noctua nh u12s, I did the blobs of paste over the two dies and that knocked 3c off from a max of 63c running R15.

Have you done an all core OC or just normal setup with better cooling?

kayone · 11 Sep 2019 at 07:00

tomshardware.co.uk: AMD's Ryzen 3000 Boost-Fixing BIOS Leaks, We Test.

https://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-ryzen-3000-boost-frequency-bios-fix-agesa,news-61633.html

Interesting results for a beta leak of the new BIOS from zaMD.

Psycho Sonny · 11 Sep 2019 at 10:26

ubern00b said:
Where are people getting £15 and 'a few quid more' price difference between the 3600 and 3600x? The price difference is £35-40.

there was a generic ebay code. which meant you got 10% or 15% off everything on ebay.

so 10% off something which is £220 means a £22 discount which means it's now £198 bringing it closer to the £189 price of the 3600.

ubern00b · 11 Sep 2019 at 14:25

Psycho Sonny said:
there was a generic ebay code. which meant you got 10% or 15% off everything on ebay.

so 10% off something which is £220 means a £22 discount which means it's now £198 bringing it closer to the £189 price of the 3600.

Ah right, thanks for the explanation.

arc@css · 11 Sep 2019 at 14:37

Do the Ryzen 3000 chips come with thermal paste or do you need to buy that separately?

Psycho Sonny · 11 Sep 2019 at 14:45

arc@css said:
Do the Ryzen 3000 chips come with thermal paste or do you need to buy that separately?

they come with a cooler which has thermal paste already applied to the cooler. so if you are using stock cooling you don't need any. saying that most third party coolers come with thermal paste too. my last 3 coolers have all came with paste.

arc@css · 11 Sep 2019 at 14:54

Psycho Sonny said:
they come with a cooler which has thermal paste already applied to the cooler. so if you are using stock cooling you don't need any. saying that most third party coolers come with thermal paste too. my last 3 coolers have all came with paste.

Thanks.

juno_first · 14 Sep 2019 at 17:24

Latest AGESA 1.0.0.3ABBA & my 3600x with x570 Asus TUF - single core max boost has increased from 4105 to 4384, so they've fixed it

All core load has increased from 4105 to around 4165.
Volts are auto running a bit high, like 1.46v but I've heard up to 1.5v is ok :eek:

michty_me · 14 Sep 2019 at 21:11

This is my findings (copied from the and thread)
I've just done some back to back testing of the Rog strix E ABB and ABBA BIOS updates.

The new ABBA BIOS has idle temps sitting near 40 deg
The old ABB has idle temps sitting at around 30 deg.

Running R20 cinebench both temps hit around 67 deg.

ABBA peak 3980 with an R20 score of 3535
ABB peak 3969 with an R20 score of 3570

The ABB appears to have a lesser temp at idle and a slightly lesser peak frequency. ABB also allows all cores to sleep when the computer isn't doing anything whereas ABBA always has one core sitting around 1500mhz.

kayone · 24 Sep 2019 at 08:24

Still no ABBA for the MSI Carbon..

Psycho Sonny · 24 Sep 2019 at 12:50

kayone said:
Still no ABBA for the MSI Carbon..

MSI are the worst for BIOS updates. My Intel MSI hasn't had an updated BIOS in 2 years and the motherboard is only 3 years old. So they supported it for 1 year. It was there most expensive motherboard too at the time.

My other MSI AMD mobo has only ever had 1 update for 3rd gen ryzen whereas the asus of same age has had at least 4.

I wouldn't buy MSI again based off this experience.

RavenXXX2 · 24 Sep 2019 at 12:57

Buy Asus, expensive yes, but you get better quality.

melmac · 24 Sep 2019 at 13:05

kayone said:
Still no ABBA for the MSI Carbon..

I think you need to check again, the ABBA Bios has been there since the 18th.

melmac · 24 Sep 2019 at 13:09

RavenXXX2 said:
Buy Asus, expensive yes, but you get better quality.

Is that Sarcasm? It's hard to tell sometimes.

TrM · 24 Sep 2019 at 13:15

melmac said:
Is that Sarcasm? It's hard to tell sometimes.

I allways like to ASUS rog stuff myself never had issues with hardware or support I just feel the overall package has more polish then the others .

melmac · 24 Sep 2019 at 13:17

Psycho Sonny said:
MSI are the worst for BIOS updates. My Intel MSI hasn't had an updated BIOS in 2 years and the motherboard is only 3 years old. So they supported it for 1 year. It was there most expensive motherboard too at the time.

My other MSI AMD mobo has only ever had 1 update for 3rd gen ryzen whereas the asus of same age has had at least 4.

I wouldn't buy MSI again based off this experience.

Really, and what Intel Motherboard was that? The most expensive boards from 3 years ago were the Z170a ones. ASUS release more BIOS updates because they keep having to fix things the previous BIOS updates mess up. MSI release BIOS tend to be more stable. But, you can always get Beta BIOS from the download section of their forums if you want.

RavenXXX2 · 24 Sep 2019 at 13:28

MSI are junk, I would take asrock over them. Asus ***** all over them.