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The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

Bought the 3600 upgraded from my 2600x, flashed my asus b350 plus bios and chipset drivers.
flawless experience, no hick ups.
enabled pbo and runs and boost to 4225mhz
Been faster in daily usage and really snappy with what I do.
Asus and amd support for am4 been really superb
 
TNA said:
Just a quick update. Thus far my all core Ryzen Master profiles are:

4200MHz @ 1.175v
4300MHz @ 1.225v
4400MHz @ 1.275v

Also testing out a profile where 3 cores are 4GHz and 3 cores at 4.5GHz at 1.275v :)

I keep tweaking the voltage until fully stable for my needs.
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This must be an insanely good chip you have. I'm way over 1.3v to reach anywhere close to even 4.2Ghz on all core.
 
kayone said:
This must be an insanely good chip you have. I'm way over 1.3v to reach anywhere close to even 4.2Ghz on all core.
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Yeah. I did get lucky it seems. I am however not having much luck getting my 3200MHz RAM running more than 3000MHz. Even the replacement Corsair sent have the same issue. Working on getting that fixed before I can even worry about tightening the RAM timing.

I am not the only person seemingly having this issue. Not sure if it is Corsair's RAM causing the issue or the BIOS...
 
TNA said:
Yeah. I did get lucky it seems. I am however not having much luck getting my 3200MHz RAM running more than 3000MHz. Even the replacement Corsair sent have the same issue. Working on getting that fixed before I can even worry about tightening the RAM timing.

I am not the only person seemingly having this issue. Not sure if it is Corsair's RAM causing the issue or the BIOS...
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Is it a Vengeance kit?

I'll take that cpu oc over any ram oc.
 
Orange Nexus said:
Is it a Vengeance kit?

I'll take that cpu oc over any ram oc.
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Yeah it is. I agree.

Would be nice to at least get it working on the advertised 3200MHz speed though. I actually will not be bothering tightening the RAM timing to be honest. Spend enough time on troubleshooting this RAM as it is and Corsairs support can be slow at times.

What I do know is when running a single stick, it runs perfectly fine at 3200MHz, my other stick does not. So that means one of the sticks is not as good. Maybe I need to now identify if one of the new pair of sticks works fine on its own and pair it with the other working stick.
 
TNA said:
Yeah it is. I agree.

Would be nice to at least get it working on the advertised 3200MHz speed though. I actually will not be bothering tightening the RAM timing to be honest. Spend enough time on troubleshooting this RAM as it is and Corsairs support can be slow at times.

What I do know is when running a single stick, it runs perfectly fine at 3200MHz, my other stick does not. So that means one of the sticks is not as good. Maybe I need to now identify if one of the new pair of sticks works fine on its own and pair it with the other working stick.
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I will never recommend Vengeance with Ryzen. Got some cheap GSkill Ripjaws V 3200 Mhz running at 3333 CL16 using DOCP.

It can even oc to 3733 but only stable in a few benches, so i lv it at 3333. These are just DOCP using 3200 timings all in auto.

https://i.imgur.com/CoJ6Fub.jpg
 
Orange Nexus said:
I will never recommend Vengeance with Ryzen. Got some cheap GSkill Ripjaws V 3200 Mhz running at 3333 CL16 using DOCP.

It can even oc to 3733 but only stable in a few benches, so i lv it at 3333. These are just DOCP using 3200 timings all in auto.

https://i.imgur.com/CoJ6Fub.jpg
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Any particular reason you don’t recommend Vengeance?

A separate question, have Corsair been dropping the ball lately with regards to their RAM? I have been using them pretty much exclusively for about two decades now.

All 4 sticks (original pair and replacement pair) show as Samsung B Die, but out of all 4 only 1 stick can manage to pass memtest without spitting out errors at 3200MHz. Yet they all pass fine at 3000MHz. Also you can tell some sticks are clearly better than others as some give out over a hundred errors with in seconds of running and others only a only a few or a few dozen. Only 1 stick from my original purchase stays error free for 4 passes of memtest.

Surely this has something to do with their RAM not being good enough at the rated speeds. Not for Ryzen anyways, maybe they would work fine on an Intel mobo? But that is not good enough as it is QVL list on my mobo.

It has been over 14 days now and although I did contact the retailer logging the issue within that time, I have been dealing with Corsair directly which is taking ages. Not sure if they would give me a full refund at this point or insist on replacing it over and over. Thoughts?
 
TNA said:
Any particular reason you don’t recommend Vengeance?

A separate question, have Corsair been dropping the ball lately with regards to their RAM? I have been using them pretty much exclusively for about two decades now.

All 4 sticks (original pair and replacement pair) show as Samsung B Die, but out of all 4 only 1 stick can manage to pass memtest without spitting out errors at 3200MHz. Yet they all pass fine at 3000MHz. Also you can tell some sticks are clearly better than others as some give out over a hundred errors with in seconds of running and others only a only a few or a few dozen. Only 1 stick from my original purchase stays error free for 4 passes of memtest.

Surely this has something to do with their RAM not being good enough at the rated speeds. Not for Ryzen anyways, maybe they would work fine on an Intel mobo? But that is not good enough as it is QVL list on my mobo.

It has been over 14 days now and although I did contact the retailer logging the issue within that time, I have been dealing with Corsair directly which is taking ages. Not sure if they would give me a full refund at this point or insist on replacing it over and over. Thoughts?
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You can't have it all. Remarkable cpu, meh ram. lol.

I've been with Ryzen through all the Gens and followed RAM tweaking in two forums. You are not the first to deal how bad that brand is to Ryzen. Better off buying some cheap T-Force or Ballistics.

Good thing is, Gen 2 has a large L3 cache, which compensates any disadvantage with IF. Use the DRAM Calculator.
 
TNA said:
Yeah. I did get lucky it seems. I am however not having much luck getting my 3200MHz RAM running more than 3000MHz. Even the replacement Corsair sent have the same issue. Working on getting that fixed before I can even worry about tightening the RAM timing.

I am not the only person seemingly having this issue. Not sure if it is Corsair's RAM causing the issue or the BIOS...
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I could not boot using ryzen calculator settings, or XMP 1 profile. I coudl use the XMP 2 profile which like you mention is set to 3000Mhz. I was going to revisit this once the latest BIOS is released, hoping the memory bugs would be ironed out as I will be jumping about 2 BIOS releases with stability improvements.

My RAM is rated for 3333Mhz with decent timings so I want to get at or near it.
 
Th0nt said:
I could not boot using ryzen calculator settings, or XMP 1 profile. I coudl use the XMP 2 profile which like you mention is set to 3000Mhz. I was going to revisit this once the latest BIOS is released, hoping the memory bugs would be ironed out as I will be jumping about 2 BIOS releases with stability improvements.

My RAM is rated for 3333Mhz with decent timings so I want to get at or near it.
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I see. I am not even sure if it will help as why is it the case one of my RAM modules are happy to work but the other 3 do not want to? There is clearly a difference in hardware here. Do you have Corsair RAM too?

Also I only have 1 XMP option. To get it to 3000MHz I need to leave it on XMP and change multiplier to 30.
 
TNA said:
Yeah. I did get lucky it seems. I am however not having much luck getting my 3200MHz RAM running more than 3000MHz. Even the replacement Corsair sent have the same issue. Working on getting that fixed before I can even worry about tightening the RAM timing.

I am not the only person seemingly having this issue. Not sure if it is Corsair's RAM causing the issue or the BIOS...
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I think bios does effect fclk stability somewhat as when I first built my system fclk would crash above 1867 but after abba bios it now happily does 1900.

Have you tested raising fclk while leaving the ram at 3000 in a 2-1 config to see if it's the ram or cpu causing instability?

If you can only run the ram at 3000 but fclk goes higher then it should give better performance cranking the fclk and going 2-1 especially if you can get it above 1800.
 
Joxeon said:
I think bios does effect fclk stability somewhat as when I first built my system fclk would crash above 1867 but after abba bios it now happily does 1900.

Have you tested raising fclk while leaving the ram at 3000 in a 2-1 config to see if it's the ram or cpu causing instability?

If you can only run the ram at 3000 but fclk goes higher then it should give better performance cranking the fclk and going 2-1 especially if you can get it above 1800.
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Not messed with that to be honest. Last I checked it is better to just leave it at 100? Anyone else play with this?
 
TNA said:
I see. I am not even sure if it will help as why is it the case one of my RAM modules are happy to work but the other 3 do not want to? There is clearly a difference in hardware here. Do you have Corsair RAM too?

Also I only have 1 XMP option. To get it to 3000MHz I need to leave it on XMP and change multiplier to 30.
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I got HyperX Predator which is samsung b-die.
 
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