The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

TNA · 10 Jan 2020 at 09:53

Got AIDA64 latency down to 63.9ns with the 3733MHz Safe profile in Ryzen Calculator. To be honest I am happy with this. Good performance, nice and low voltage so RAM does not get too hot or stressed. Main thing is it seems stable so far. Passed 4 runs of memtest with no errors and 4 hours of AIDA64 system stability without any issues.

Going to leave it like this for about a month or so, if no issues I will key in my Ryzen Master 4.4GHz all core OC into my BIOS

Will likely ignore any minor BIOS updates going forward for a while now until I decide to stick a 4900X into this mobo in the future which will obviously require an BIOS update then.

Brumboy · 11 Jan 2020 at 16:20

If I got the 3600 and paired it with a MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC, would I need to do a BIOS update or anything prior?

On a website it is saying this for some reason:

"Warning! Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions"

Joxeon · 11 Jan 2020 at 20:14

Rossuk89 said:
If I got the 3600 and paired it with a MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC, would I need to do a BIOS update or anything prior?

On a website it is saying this for some reason:

"Warning! Some AMD B450 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Matisse CPUs. Upgrading the BIOS may require a different CPU that is supported by older BIOS revisions"

It may come with the bios already updated but if it doesn't then this board has a feature called bios flashback which enables you to flash without the need to boot into the bios, it even works without CPU, Gpu and ram installed.

This video explains how it works.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

Brumboy · 12 Jan 2020 at 10:02

Joxeon said:
It may come with the bios already updated but if it doesn't then this board has a feature called bios flashback which enables you to flash without the need to boot into the bios, it even works without CPU, Gpu and ram installed.

This video explains how it works.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE

Awesome, exactly what I was looking for. Cheers!

sidthesexist · 12 Jan 2020 at 10:38

Finished building this 3600, B450 Tomahawk max, DDR4 3600 build last night. Only settings change i have made is changing XMP to 3600.

This is the only "Bench" I've gotten round to running so far. Not sure how it compares to the numbers other are getting? And may change when i finally get round to updating the bios/drivers?

TNA · 12 Jan 2020 at 11:12

sidthesexist said:
Finished building this 3600, B450 Tomahawk max, DDR4 3600 build last night. Only settings change i have made is changing XMP to 3600.

This is the only "Bench" I've gotten round to running so far. Not sure how it compares to the numbers other are getting? And may change when i finally get round to updating the bios/drivers?

That looks similar to my stock score. So it is fine. BIOS update won't change it by much if at all.

sidthesexist · 12 Jan 2020 at 11:18

TNA said:
That looks similar to my stock score. So it is fine. BIOS update won't change it by much if at all.

Thnx, Just run Cinebench and got this.

Probably a bit of an improvement from my old 3570k..

TNA · 12 Jan 2020 at 11:26

sidthesexist said:
Thnx, Just run Cinebench and got this.

Probably a bit of an improvement from my old 3570k..

Not a bit. Loads. I came from a 4770K at 4.7GHz that did not even have as good single core performance, let alone multi core of an overclocked 3600

I always run benches before upgrading to do a before and after performance comparison. It is fun for me.

TNA · 12 Jan 2020 at 12:33

Here are my final 24/7 stable benchmark scores that I just ran.

4.4GHz all core at 1.275v:

8Pack B-Die RAM at 3733MHz 16-17-16-32-1T at 1.38v:

Done tinkering and will use it like this for a couple of years now

Scramz · 12 Jan 2020 at 16:26

What is the general OC numbers for the 3600. I just got the 3600X and decided to give all core overclocking a try. Fully stable on numbers, 4.3Ghz 1.36V, 4.25Ghz 1.32V and 4.2Ghz sub 1.27V. Do these numbers stack up ok?

Running 4.2Ghz gives great temps for not a lot of performance loss.

All power saving features are enabled so clocks and volts clock down at idle.

humbug · 12 Jan 2020 at 17:06

Scramz said:
What is the general OC numbers for the 3600. I just got the 3600X and decided to give all core overclocking a try. Fully stable on numbers, 4.3Ghz 1.36V, 4.25Ghz 1.32V and 4.2Ghz sub 1.27V. Do these numbers stack up ok?

Running 4.2Ghz gives great temps for not a lot of performance loss.

All power saving features are enabled so clocks and volts clock down at idle.

Those numbers are better than mine...

Scramz · 12 Jan 2020 at 17:29

humbug said:
Those numbers are better than mine...

I’m going to take it that they’re ok then!

4.2Ghz tops out about 68c after an hour of realbench stress test with a Noctua U14S so very pleased with that. The CPU at full load tops at 75ish watts according to Ryzen master and hwinfo which is well under the 95w TDP the chip has.

These chips are impressive. I paid £188 for this little 3600X with games included, exceptional value.

humbug · 12 Jan 2020 at 17:31

They are great chips

Scramz · 12 Jan 2020 at 17:37

humbug said:
They are great chips

Tbh there is barely any difference in gaming FPS from a 4.1Ghz to 4.3Ghz chip, talking about 0-5 FPS depending on the title. Its not even worth worrying about. The only reason I have moved away from stock is because of the voltage spikes throwing the heat up and spinning up the fans.

jigger · 12 Jan 2020 at 20:46

Scramz said:
What is the general OC numbers for the 3600. I just got the 3600X and decided to give all core overclocking a try. Fully stable on numbers, 4.3Ghz 1.36V, 4.25Ghz 1.32V and 4.2Ghz sub 1.27V. Do these numbers stack up ok?

Running 4.2Ghz gives great temps for not a lot of performance loss.

All power saving features are enabled so clocks and volts clock down at idle.

Looks decent enough.

Perfect_Chaos · 13 Jan 2020 at 02:17

TNA said:
Done tinkering and will use it like this for a couple of years now

You just changed sub timings to get that latency?

TNA · 13 Jan 2020 at 09:11

Perfect_Chaos said:
You just changed sub timings to get that latency?

The main thing that helped with latency is going 3733MHz and locking IF to 1866. Also overclocking the cpu helps both latency and benchmark scores for memory which is yet another reason to overclock the cpu and not leave it stock.

For example when I was on 3600MHz RAM and 1800 IF but with much tighter sub timings I had a slightly better RAM score in the benchmarks but the latency was not as good. From what I can see the tighter sub timings seem to help with better write and threaded speeds. But I preferred to sacrifice that and go for the better latency route which also had the benefit of needing lower voltage to achieve stability.

joelk2 · 13 Jan 2020 at 11:15

in a general comparison, how does the R7 2700 compare to the 3600? 3600 being about £50 more than the 2700.

gpuerrilla · 13 Jan 2020 at 13:44

2700 is a good chip the cheaper the better.

Psycho Sonny · 13 Jan 2020 at 16:37

joelk2 said:
in a general comparison, how does the R7 2700 compare to the 3600? 3600 being about £50 more than the 2700.

the 3600X is the one to get IMO.

for gaming anyway. by the time the extra cores become useful you can upgrade to the 4000 series. my cpu usage is 25% in CSGO so the extra cores are wasted.