With respect, I doubt AMD are updating UK retailers on the release date for Zen 3 six months in advance. Lisa Su herself said that they will be arriving in 2020 just last month, and AMD's latest roadmap shows Zen 3 as being on course for mid-2020. There's zero chance they're going to release Zen 3-based APUs first either. They're only just getting out the first Zen 2-based ones.
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread
- Thread starter kayone
- Start date
Caporegime
MT 3625
ST 470
ST 470
Caporegime
I did notice that CPU-Z was reporting 3.36Ghz every no and then for a second, with a 33.6 Multiplier, which is impossible as the multiplier works in 25Mhz increments, so its giving me false readings there...
Your ST is right where it should be, your multi is down a little but not 3.75Ghz like CPU-Z is reporting.
If the scored were all fine i would ignore it, but your MT score at 3500 is down 100 points, then again that's only 3% off what it should be. i wouldn't worry about it.
Edit: 3400, that is down about 5% or 6%.
Caporegime
If you're thinking faulty component, i would look at the Motherboard, not necessarily faulty just Asus fluffing up the BIOS.
Get a cheap used board from FlyBay to test, then resell it... one like mine is probably only £40.
Get a cheap used board from FlyBay to test, then resell it... one like mine is probably only £40.
Do AMD normally release the EPYC stuff first, if so Lisa maybe referring to Zen 3 without saying on what platform. It could be Milan before desktop.
Milan production is roadmapped for Q3 2020. I thought desktop comes after EPYC.
I decided to just say eff it. Tried a manual overclock at 4.1Ghz with 1.42v or so. Immediately set it back to ensure any damage was minimal.
https://i.imgur.com/RZKwCnK.png
Temps got to 75c. Ended 3711
https://i.imgur.com/RZKwCnK.png
Temps got to 75c. Ended 3711
Nope, Epyc has been post-desktop so far. First-gen Ryzen was March 2017, Naples was June 2017. Third-gen Ryzen was July last year, Rome was August. And of course there was second-gen in April 2018 that was never used for Epyc.
Thought it was confirmed by Lisa Su at CES that ryzen 4000 would be coming this year and also the roadmap shows 2020 for 7nm+. I'm guessing it will be sept/Oct/Nov as by that time Intel will probably have their new 14nm++++++++ but this time if HT is enabled across the whole line up and with lower pricing they will be quite competitive with 3000 chips albeit with almost double the power consumption so AMD will want to hit back rather than delay till next year.
Soldato
Never used Cinebench 20 before, just curious myself.
3600X at stock, seemed to boost to 4.1ghz all core during the render at 70C with around 1.375v
3600X at stock, seemed to boost to 4.1ghz all core during the render at 70C with around 1.375v
Soldato
Seems par for the course!
Back in Nov I set similar (4175mhz all cores with just under 1.3v):
Soldato
Seems par for the course!
Back in Nov I set similar (4175mhz all cores with just under 1.3v):
Nice! Coming from a 4 core CPU, it's a good step up! Was that result at stock? No idea of what makes good silicon now adays. Is it under 1.3v for 4.5ghz all core?
The zen 2 road map had Rome production at end of Q2 start of Q3 2020 with Ryzen 3000 releasing bang on that in July.
If Vermeer follows the same then we should expect to see the 4000 desktop end of Q3 start of Q4.
Sod it, I am going to flog my 3600x and grab Gibbos 3700x for £259 and move to 4000 when it comes.
Soldato
It batters most tasks, the better multi-threaded the program is the stronger it gets.
Caporegime
So we know the CPU can do it, that's about 100 points higher than me at stock.
Caporegime
don't know about the 1usmus plan but for gaming you can set 1.38v to 1.4v and that's perfectly acceptable.
Caporegime
Silicon lottery, mine will not even complete a Cinebench run at 4.15Ghz with anything less than 1.42v, others like @TNA and @RavenXXX2 posted 4K+ Cinbench scores at 4.5Ghz at under 1.4v.
It might be my relitivly cheap motherboard, i don't know, but certainly if i don't pump it full of volts it just doesn't complete the run, i think maybe start with lower volts and it its not stable work your way up if you're nervous about pumping too many volts into it.
Soldato
When its not enough volts the Cinebench crashes not the whole machine (unless you go silly). Start off with 1.35 or somewhere toward 1.4 then work your way down. Mine couldnt complete the bench anywhere near 1.3v but will revisit this when I get the time and have updated to the latest BIOS.