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The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread
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Caporegime
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Hi guys you need to overclock the cpu so you get great marks on benchmarks. Benchmarks is the best reason to buy this cpu and overclock it. Maybe one day I will get highest benchmark score and be number one benchmarker in the world.
Said nobody.
My chip runs at 55c whilst gaming. I run csgo at 500fps. Please do tell the great benefits of undervolting and overclocking.
Even stress testing my cpu for 5 mins it went to 75c it started off at around 69c initially after a few seconds of stress testing.
There is absolutely no reason why I should waste my time overclocking other than for benchmark purposes because they don't clock well at all.
If I wanted better clocks I'd simply buy a 3600xt.
Its why I have a 3600x over a 3600 in my gaming rig and the 3600 is in my unraid server.
Said nobody.
My chip runs at 55c whilst gaming. I run csgo at 500fps. Please do tell the great benefits of undervolting and overclocking.
Even stress testing my cpu for 5 mins it went to 75c it started off at around 69c initially after a few seconds of stress testing.
There is absolutely no reason why I should waste my time overclocking other than for benchmark purposes because they don't clock well at all.
If I wanted better clocks I'd simply buy a 3600xt.
Its why I have a 3600x over a 3600 in my gaming rig and the 3600 is in my unraid server.
Looking for an upgrade from a r5 1600, considering this or the 3700x.
I've read that temps on 3600 get pretty high on the stock cooler and getting a cheap £20-30 cooler is ideal to fix this. But then spending more perhaps it makes more sense getting a 3700x which comes with the better cooler. Is there any truth to this? Or is there some other issue (first releases vs newer, or windows settings/updates etc)
Mobo is a b350m asus.
I've read that temps on 3600 get pretty high on the stock cooler and getting a cheap £20-30 cooler is ideal to fix this. But then spending more perhaps it makes more sense getting a 3700x which comes with the better cooler. Is there any truth to this? Or is there some other issue (first releases vs newer, or windows settings/updates etc)
Mobo is a b350m asus.
Caporegime
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I use mine with a £25 cooler but I did buy the 3600X. I also have a 3600 and I am using a £35 cooler from a previous build on that so cost me nothing.
Do you not have a cooler from a previous build? All you need is a decent cheap cooler no need to spend a lot on it. The german one with the 140mm fan is the one i use cool and silent
see this is what worried me in the back of my mind when buying a ryzen, that in 1-2 years raw speed will be better again
and 5ghz will be the minimum for smoothness at high details and that a 4 - 4.5 ghz ryzen just wouldn't be fast enough.
no biggy a ryzen setups pretty cheap 250 all in for board and cpu, I'll just change board and cpu if the need arises to a 5ghz + cpu.
This is my first AMD since the barton days so far so good but lets see if it goes pop.
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Finally built my Ryzen 3600 system today.
In stock mode, voltage was set to 1.47
I managed the following:
4.2GHz all core. Going any higher it doesn't even boot.
1900FCLK. Again no boot if any higher.
3800MHz RAM. As the FCLK doesn't go any higher, I did not attempt any higher.
Ram timings as follow: 16-16-16-38. I tried to use the DRAM calculator, but even just touching the primary timings resulted in no boot.
CPU Vcore @ 1.325V.
Idles at around 45C and ran a bit of blender benchmark (around 30 minutes) which took it up to 83.8C.
Only question I have is, it seems the CPU is set to constantly be at 4.2GHz. Is there anyway to tell it to drop the multiplier when not needed?
I tried amending the power plan to allow the CPU to drop, but it does not flinch from 4.2GHz.
In stock mode, voltage was set to 1.47
I managed the following:
4.2GHz all core. Going any higher it doesn't even boot.
1900FCLK. Again no boot if any higher.
3800MHz RAM. As the FCLK doesn't go any higher, I did not attempt any higher.
Ram timings as follow: 16-16-16-38. I tried to use the DRAM calculator, but even just touching the primary timings resulted in no boot.
CPU Vcore @ 1.325V.
Idles at around 45C and ran a bit of blender benchmark (around 30 minutes) which took it up to 83.8C.
Only question I have is, it seems the CPU is set to constantly be at 4.2GHz. Is there anyway to tell it to drop the multiplier when not needed?
I tried amending the power plan to allow the CPU to drop, but it does not flinch from 4.2GHz.
Lol. Keep repeating yourself. Does not change the facts. I got more performance and it runs cooler, quieter and with less power.
End of the day this is Overclockers UK. People come here asking such questions and I tell it to them as it is. If you really fancy overclocking then there is a possibility that you could have a chip that lets you, like mine. Takes very little effort, less than you seem to spend replying with a bunch of waffle to my posts actually
check the clocks in ryzen master.
Oh okay, I see. The speed was at like 150MHz on two cores, other were sleeping. Guess hwinfo isn't accurate on clock speeds. Thanks.
was the voltage fluctuating too?
IN HWinfo yes, in Ryzen Master no, it just shows the nominal and the average (which equals the nominal).
What surprised me was at one point all 6 cores were sleeping
It was idling at 37C then. In browsing/youtube and general use it goes to 45-50C.
Seems a bit high, but then I have fairly low fan speeds until after 60C, and doesn't go over 83C which is lower than my previous chip.
Why are you talking about gaming? Strawman because you lost an argument?
I could not even keep 4GHz on stock when doing CPU heavy tasks, was around 3.8GHz as I recall. Now it is at 4.4GHz. Yea, so I think there is a huge difference. Not to mention doing all this while running much cooler, quieter and consuming less power.
You are so stubborn at times man.
Yes totally agree, I too easily managed an everyday 4.4GHz (4.5GHz was possible but needed to throw more voltage at it so dropped it down).
So for me it was a 200MHz in single core/gaming and 400MHz boost in multicore work loads that now performs better than a stock 3600x for £50 cheaper, a bit of a no-brainer for me.
Indeed.
What made me laugh is in the end he admitted paying more for a 3600x for the better clocks for his gaming rig... Too funny
Overclock or not, undervolt or not... I'm with @TNA on this one.
There's no reason not to try and get the most out of your chip. We're all different, and although I'm not a gamer (chasing fps) I do make longer Handbrake runs from time to time. The difference between running Handbrake for longer encodes with everything stock and when manually setting things is like night and day with regards to voltages/temps. I could not do what I'm currently doing (2 hours into a x265 encode at 4300MHz all core) on stock...
I've spent a bit of time tinkering with this cpu and have managed to reach the same speeds at the same voltage as TNA did (4400MHz with a +0.186 offset in BIOS) and it can run for days like that without any problems whatsoever. I am not running with it like that 24/7 though (for the moment) for the simple reason that room temps here in Spain have a tendency to stick at 30C during the day and the case fans I went for does make a bit of noise. My goal is to fine tune both the voltages and my fan curves a bit at a later point, but as I'm currently on a kernel (Linux Mint 20 with kernel 5.4) that does not report Ryzen that well I'd have to boot into Windows for that to happen.
Anyway - I'm not really into this for the actual overclocking. I'm more about lowering voltages, and my goal with all this is to reach a decent clock keeping the voltages (and with that power consumption & heat) as low as possible. So far I've managed to get 4200MHz with +0.084V offset and 4300MHz running on +0.114V - all core. That's about 1.175V & 1.21V.
There's no reason not to try and get the most out of your chip. We're all different, and although I'm not a gamer (chasing fps) I do make longer Handbrake runs from time to time. The difference between running Handbrake for longer encodes with everything stock and when manually setting things is like night and day with regards to voltages/temps. I could not do what I'm currently doing (2 hours into a x265 encode at 4300MHz all core) on stock...
I've spent a bit of time tinkering with this cpu and have managed to reach the same speeds at the same voltage as TNA did (4400MHz with a +0.186 offset in BIOS) and it can run for days like that without any problems whatsoever. I am not running with it like that 24/7 though (for the moment) for the simple reason that room temps here in Spain have a tendency to stick at 30C during the day and the case fans I went for does make a bit of noise. My goal is to fine tune both the voltages and my fan curves a bit at a later point, but as I'm currently on a kernel (Linux Mint 20 with kernel 5.4) that does not report Ryzen that well I'd have to boot into Windows for that to happen.
Anyway - I'm not really into this for the actual overclocking. I'm more about lowering voltages, and my goal with all this is to reach a decent clock keeping the voltages (and with that power consumption & heat) as low as possible. So far I've managed to get 4200MHz with +0.084V offset and 4300MHz running on +0.114V - all core. That's about 1.175V & 1.21V.
1usmus 1.1 universal power plan, only amd ryzen master shows correct core behaviour, hwinfo etc it will just show 4.5ghz