The Ryzen 5 3600 Discussion Thread

TNA · 20 Jul 2020 at 16:36

M1k3H said:
In both cases all cores go to 4.2GHz, so it definitely isn't throttling due to high temp. Temps are a bit higher (around 78C) with the increased voltage, but still okay.

There you go: https://imgur.com/a/HfWrT5d

Edit: some more information on a different metric. Benching the CPU with CPU-Z I get 514.3 and 4277.5 for single and multi-core respectively. Versus a stock 3700x I'm a bit quicker on single core (511) and slower on multi-core by 21% (I do have 25% less cores though). Seems okay?

Your 4.2GHz score seems ok, just stock ain't right and his 4.4GHz needs to be scoring minimum 3900 points.

M1k3H · 20 Jul 2020 at 17:03

TNA said:
Your 4.2GHz score seems ok for it's score, just stock ain't right and his 4.4GHz needs to be scoring minimum 3900 points.

Phew, thought I might have missed something obvious in the bios, which was affecting my performance. The bios is so hard to navigate. Same things can be accessed via 3 different menus, others are hidden away. On my X58 system it was just a page

Zakal · 20 Jul 2020 at 19:26

After clearing some running processes I'm getting around 3900 +/- 1% so will try with a new windows install later this week.

I may move to a new install anyway as for some reason my C drive is now not showing under optimise drives, all my others are but not the one I actually want to optimise!

TNA · 20 Jul 2020 at 21:58

Zakal said:
After clearing some running processes I'm getting around 3900 +/- 1% so will try with a new windows install later this week.

I may move to a new install anyway as for some reason my C drive is now not showing under optimise drives, all my others are but not the one I actually want to optimise!

You are not using an SSD for you OS drive? If you are you should not be using optimise.

TNA · 21 Jul 2020 at 03:57

On latest windows and chipset drivers. As predicted, my score went up, even more than expected. @humbug @Psycho Sonny eat your heart out fellas

Psycho Sonny · 21 Jul 2020 at 10:38

I haven't done any overclocking and I get 520 on cpu z single core bench from memory.

I'm sure that extra 4% cpu power makes a huge difference in games.

I'm also using a B350 board. The £150 saving in my pocket which went towards a decent gpu was worth not messing around with a £200 motherboard to get an extra 0.2 fps gain in games.

Literally pointless.

I'm sure with the recent AGESA improvements my score would be even higher.

TNA · 21 Jul 2020 at 10:47

Psycho Sonny said:
I haven't done any overclocking and I get 520 on cpu z single core bench from memory.

I'm sure that extra 4% cpu power makes a huge difference in games.

I'm also using a B350 board. The £150 saving in my pocket which went towards a decent gpu was worth not messing around with a £200 motherboard to get an extra 0.2 fps gain in games.

Literally pointless.

I'm sure with the recent AGESA improvements my score would be even higher.

Lol. It is like you auto filter out while reading and thus end up saying the same things over and over again

Psycho Sonny said:
If I wanted better clocks I'd simply buy a 3600xt.

Its why I have a 3600x over a 3600 in my gaming rig and the 3600 is in my unraid server.

Too funny. Why do this to yourself man?

Matt_West_Mids · 21 Jul 2020 at 11:33

New to pc's not done much yet here is my score.

Any simple ways to improve it?

TNA · 21 Jul 2020 at 11:45

Matt_West_Mids said:
New to pc's not done much yet here is my score.

Any simple ways to improve it?

Read the thread

Psycho Sonny · 21 Jul 2020 at 13:50

TNA said:
Lol. It is like you auto filter out while reading and thus end up saying the same things over and over again

Too funny. Why do this to yourself man?

The 3600xt overclock to 4.6ghz on low volts. If I wanted to I could sell my chip and upgrade to that for £100 and blow your scores out of the water.

I don't think even £100 is worth it though for 200mhz.

My mobo and cpu combo cost me £280. Yours was what £380?

So I could beat your scores for cheaper if I wanted to but I don't believe it's worth the time or effort or the money.

Seriously overclocking is so pointless. You get next to zero gains which you have proved time and time again. I mean 4% more cpu power for £100 is stupid when I got 100% for £280.

TNA · 21 Jul 2020 at 14:23

Psycho Sonny said:
The 3600xt overclock to 4.6ghz on low volts. If I wanted to I could sell my chip and upgrade to that for £100 and blow your scores out of the water.

I don't think even £100 is worth it though for 200mhz.

My mobo and cpu combo cost me £280. Yours was what £380?

So I could beat your scores for cheaper if I wanted to but I don't believe it's worth the time or effort or the money.

Seriously overclocking is so pointless. You get next to zero gains which you have proved time and time again. I mean 4% more cpu power for £100 is stupid when I got 100% for £280.

Carry on strawmanning. Lol.

You lost this argument but just cannot see, too funny

Relentless81 · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:14

Hi,

I picked up a 3600 off the MM to tide me over until 4000 desktop CPUs release and wondered if I could check a few things please -

Cinebench R20 score is 3557, is that normal at stock? My 2600X before it was 3004

I noticed it runs hotter than the 2600X, 85C during the Cinebench run, low 80's when gaming for an hour. Is this an expected temperature at stock speeds? Curiously the stock cooler is smaller than what came with the 2600X, seems to have less mass and no copper centre which is interesting, some kind of cost saving perhaps?

My 2600X at stock was 75C under any load with its stock cooler

RAM is 16GB 3200 C16 if it matters

Thanks

M1k3H · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:26

Didn't the 2600x come with the better Wraith Spire cooler?

Score seems okay. I get 75C in Cinebench, so yours is a bit higher, however I'm using a Noctua NH12 cooler.

harrisck · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:27

Relentless81 said:
Hi,

I picked up a 3600 off the MM to tide me over until 4000 desktop CPUs release and wondered if I could check a few things please -

Cinebench R20 score is 3557, is that normal at stock? My 2600X before it was 3004

I noticed it runs hotter than the 2600X, 85C during the Cinebench run, low 80's when gaming for an hour. Is this an expected temperature at stock speeds? Curiously the stock cooler is smaller than what came with the 2600X, seems to have less mass and no copper centre which is interesting, some kind of cost saving perhaps?

My 2600X at stock was 75C under any load with its stock cooler

RAM is 16GB 3200 C16 if it matters

Thanks

You stock Cinebench score is about right, the 3600 only comes with the wraith stealth which can get a bit warm! The 2600 i think came with the wraith spire. They took the copper plug out and went with a solid alu heatsink for all the 3000 gens. Definitely a backwards step.

fromage · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:44

Relentless81 said:
Hi,

I picked up a 3600 off the MM to tide me over until 4000 desktop CPUs release and wondered if I could check a few things please -

Cinebench R20 score is 3557, is that normal at stock? My 2600X before it was 3004

I noticed it runs hotter than the 2600X, 85C during the Cinebench run, low 80's when gaming for an hour. Is this an expected temperature at stock speeds? Curiously the stock cooler is smaller than what came with the 2600X, seems to have less mass and no copper centre which is interesting, some kind of cost saving perhaps?

My 2600X at stock was 75C under any load with its stock cooler

RAM is 16GB 3200 C16 if it matters

Thanks

Yes that R20 seems fine for a stock 3600 with the IF @ 1600MHz I found the stock cooler absolutely awful (and loud), I too got a 3600 to tide me over until the 4000's so bought me a Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4 (secondhand for £40) to use on the 3600 and the 4000 and in R20 I hit 69C @ 4.4GHz after 10mins compared to about 85C stock cooler and stock settings

TNA · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:48

fromage said:
Yes that R20 seems fine for a stock 3600 with the IF @ 1600MHz I found the stock cooler absolutely awful (and loud), I too got a 3600 to tide me over until the 4000's so bought me a Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4 (secondhand for £40) to use on the 3600 and the 4000 and in R20 I hit 69C @ 4.4GHz after 10mins compared to about 85C stock cooler and stock settings

Yea. That's what I use. Not sure I have seen the temps ever go into the 70's. While browsing it usually is 33C and whisper quiet.

Not a fan of coolers that come with CPU's.

Relentless81 · 22 Jul 2020 at 11:48

fromage said:
Yes that R20 seems fine for a stock 3600 with the IF @ 1600MHz I found the stock cooler absolutely awful (and loud), I too got a 3600 to tide me over until the 4000's so bought me a Bequiet Dark Rock Pro 4 (secondhand for £40) to use on the 3600 and the 4000 and in R20 I hit 69C @ 4.4GHz after 10mins compared to about 85C stock cooler and stock settings

So you got 85C at 4.4 on the stock cooler in Cinebench? Edit - sorry I rush read, you got the same as me stock cooler and stock settings 85C - ok if thats normal then its fine I'll be changing the cooler when I go ITX

I had a DRPro4 but I'm going ITX soon so I'll probably just run the stock cooler for now as long as it has no detrimental effects

M1k3H · 23 Jul 2020 at 17:55

Flashed the new bios for my mobo and managed to take my OC to 4.3 from 4.2 previously. Everything else the same. I still can't touch memory timings without some sort of error or no boot.

Skellz · 25 Jul 2020 at 00:05

What's a good temp range for these chips? I have mine at 4.3ghz @ 1.275v and three hours of gaming it gave a maximum of 76c and an average of around low-mid 60c.

BluesFanUK · 31 Jul 2020 at 16:40

Thinking of putting this in my next build - is an after market cooler advisable even if not overclocking? My room temps aren't the greatest and i'm downsizing my build to a Node 304 or NR400, so it's a bit more of a concern, plus I have heard these chips do run extremely hot despite their efficiency over Intel.