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Going RWD will probably help with the man maths, it did for me.

Up until recently I was only really looking at the LR but with the recent range bump of the SR, I went for that instead at £7k cheaper. Sure the LR goes a bit further, but it doesn't go that much further and for me its not enough to spend £7k more. The RWD is plenty fast enough as it is and probably comparable to a 135i at UK legal speeds with its instant pickup (no change down etc.).
 
Yeah I think I need to test drive them both in succession (or as close to) as I've only driven the LR. Where we live AWD is really useful but not absolutely essential. I'd like the better sound system and more range is obviously a bonus. Need to try them both out really.
 
LR is the one to go for.

Better range is everything in an EV after all. It’s 353 vs 263 miles stated.

It’s also quicker (1s faster to 60), has an extra 200hp in the front motor, has better sound system and the dual motor makes it a more stable option in wet/ice. I can’t pinpoint it at the moment but I’m sure it also has more AC charging capacity with the bigger battery tech (DC is the same).

With the performance upgrade it’s not far off the performance level of spec.
 
in replacing 135i , consider weight/bmi too, straight line hero or corner handling, extra, apparently 200kg for lr awd
Standard Plus: 1,612 kg Long Range AWD: 1,829 kg Performance: 1,831 kg

[do all model3 variants have the newer LFP batteries, is that old hat .. hadn't previously read their differences versus NCA
  1. Longer life cycle
  2. Cobalt, and nickel free
  3. More stable (less prone to explosion or fire from damage)
  4. Can charge to 100% without worrying about degradation
  5. Not so good in cold weather
]

e: good read on lfp batteries
https://teslaowners.org.uk/kb/what-are-lfp-batteries-and-why-do-tesla-use-them
Charging to 100% for LFP makes some sense, as stated it has impressive cycle life even with full charge and discharge cycles, so it will degrade the cell but by an appreciably smaller margin than for the Li-ion pack. By way of example, li-ion based cells get somewhere around 500 cycles before they are judged end of life (which in battery world is actually only 80% of original capacity). LFP will often achieve 2000 – 5000 cycles before hitting this 80% of original capacity threshold. This is why Tesla isn’t bothered about you charging to 100% to maximise range as you’ll still get more cycle life than the conventional li-ion cell typ
 
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No only the standard has the LFP, they can’t fit a 75/82kwh LFP pack on the chassis currently. It’s not energy dense enough.

The 3 is a bit heavier but it will have better distribution (near 50/50) and a lower centre of gravity.

They are worse in the cold but it’s all relative. We don’t really get actually ‘cold’ weather in the U.K. outside of a week a year if we are unlucky. Compared to Scandinavia and even parts of central Europe, the U.K. has pretty mild winters.
 
Last December there was a lot of talk of some bonkers cheap lease deals on M3 as Tesla pushed for end of year numbers, haven't seen any yet but if it comes up I might get an RWD for the wife.
 
Highly unlikely, like everyone else, they are production constrained and selling every car they build, any un-allocated cars are selling in minutes.

If you want a while SR, you are waiting until May now.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Highly unlikely, like everyone else, they are production constrained and selling every car they build, any un-allocated cars are selling in minutes.

If you want a while SR, you are waiting until May now.
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I had wondered why I hadn't seen anything tempting. Would consider any trim if it was a bargain.
 
EVH said:
LR is the one to go for.

Better range is everything in an EV after all. It’s 353 vs 263 miles stated.

It’s also quicker (1s faster to 60), has an extra 200hp in the front motor, has better sound system and the dual motor makes it a more stable option in wet/ice. I can’t pinpoint it at the moment but I’m sure it also has more AC charging capacity with the bigger battery tech (DC is the same).

With the performance upgrade it’s not far off the performance level of spec.
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Naa performance is best, just because:D. Just thought I'd make you guys laugh as I used a tesco AC charger at the weekend, I didn't realise you had to register so it shut off after 15 mins:cry:. There seems to be way to many apps for charging these things.
 
Ranger07 said:
Last December there was a lot of talk of some bonkers cheap lease deals on M3 as Tesla pushed for end of year numbers, haven't seen any yet but if it comes up I might get an RWD for the wife.
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That won't happen, they cannot meet demand as it stands.
 
Id also expect supply of the Model 3 to drop in the coming months as well with the Model Y landing here in the new year. They’ll be shifting production to higher margin models.
 
I have an LR on order, I'm hoping for Jan/Feb. I'm looking into EV Home chargers currently and I'm leaning more towards the Hypervolt, anyone got one?
 
I looked at the Hypervolt, looked good. Only concern was the fact it has a raspberry pi and thus physical access could result in access to your home network.

I don't think that's a good enough reason to avoid it, but would consider using a guest network.

I went for the Tesla charger, was a bit more expensive as no grant. But is a tiny bit more convenient and a bit better looking. You can also secure to your VIN, not that I think that's required.
 
Yeh I’m not particularly bothered by the Pi thing. I’ll probably hard wire mine when I get round to running the Ethernet into the garage.

They wouldn’t even need to worry about the WiFi then, with physical access they could just plug straight in!

At the end of the day, WPA2 which 99% of household runs isn’t exactly what you’d call secure either. If someone really wanted to get in, they could and they wouldn’t even need physical access, they could be sat anywhere in WiFi range.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
Yeh I’m not particularly bothered by the Pi thing. I’ll probably hard wire mine when I get round to running the Ethernet into the garage.

They wouldn’t even need to worry about the WiFi then, with physical access they could just plug straight in!

At the end of the day, WPA2 which 99% of household runs isn’t exactly what you’d call secure either. If someone really wanted to get in, they could and they wouldn’t even need physical access, they could be sat anywhere in WiFi range.
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Can't imagine it's any less secure than a normal router, or even the people that still use the original SSID.
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
At the end of the day, WPA2 which 99% of household runs isn’t exactly what you’d call secure either. If someone really wanted to get in, they could and they wouldn’t even need physical access, they could be sat anywhere in WiFi range.
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Without the pre-shared key, WPA2 isn’t exactly easy to break. Are you sure you’re not thinking of WEP?
 
b0rn2sk8 said:
No only the standard has the LFP, they can’t fit a 75/82kwh LFP pack on the chassis currently. It’s not energy dense enough.
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so if the battery life is 4x and you can charge the lfp to 100% without being afraid they should have good/better residuals than long range. -
not sure if other ev manufacturers are on the lfp train.
subsequently watched bjorns video Tesla Model 3 SR+ range test in winter
 
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