The Tesla Thread

TheOracle said:
I think when people talk about Tesla tech, it's not so much around matrix lights, 360 camera, seating etc etc but things like the brilliant mobile app, summon, sentry, self driving, netflix app and the like. Tesla are years ahead.
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i know that, you know that. But you can’t just look at the extras Tesla adds and not the items not offered.

But really it’s software based pushing envelopes of legislation - very agile. Like the hotel if it’s raining example the guy was saying; you could summon the car. But then went on to say in the UK you have to be within 5m of the car… or the boom box where the custom sound could be Silent.wav so it makes no noise and bypasses the pedestrian warning :cry:
 
TheOracle said:
I think when people talk about Tesla tech, it's not so much around matrix lights, 360 camera, seating etc etc but things like the brilliant mobile app, summon, sentry, self driving, netflix app and the like. Tesla are years ahead.
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The Self Driving navigating and Summon features are options which most don't specify.
Mobile car apps are common place - my 2017 BMW had one which included remote parking, pre-heating, send routes to the car nav, check fuel, lights, door locks, car location.

The other stuff is just apps which work better on a dedicated tablet - Netflix, YouTube, TikTok etc... and can be used whilst in motion, for the passengers.
 
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Tesla are constantly adding features, which I don't see other manufacturers doing. I'm not talking adding apps like Netflix or Spotify... I mean genuine features or revamping the entire UI.

According to Teslamate on my Pi, the median time between software updates is 9 days on my car. Since I've had it, they've introduced some good features (like the blindspot camera, remote sentry mode and cloud login for syncing profiles etc) and some obvious gimmicks (like Sonic the hedgehog).

Silly question, but couldn't they add 360 view through software? There's 4 wide-angle cameras all around the car...

I wish they'd allow us to use the pedestrian warning sounds whilst driving (which they can't because of UK law). It would be nice to have some noise at low speed as I've had more than a handful incidents where people in the car park don't hear me behind them or just the other day, I pulled out of my drive and a woman almost walked in to the side of the car because she was head-down in her phone and didn't hear me.
 
TheOracle said:
I think when people talk about Tesla tech, it's not so much around matrix lights, 360 camera, seating etc etc but things like the brilliant mobile app, summon, sentry, self driving, netflix app and the like. Tesla are years ahead.
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Well they have a 360 camera (actually they'll have the best one) it just is implemented in the software, but I am sure they said they were looking at adding it soon. It's also the technology the car is built on as well, the heat pump, the motor design, the pure efficeincy it offers vs rivals.
 
EVH said:
Tesla are constantly adding features, which I don't see other manufacturers doing. I'm not talking adding apps like Netflix or Spotify... I mean genuine features or revamping the entire UI.

Silly question, but couldn't they add 360 view through software? There's 4 wide-angle cameras all around the car...

I wish they'd allow us to use the pedestrian warning sounds whilst driving (which they can't because of UK law). It would be nice to have some noise at low speed as I've had more than a handful incidents where people in the car park don't hear me behind them or just the other day, I pulled out of my drive and a woman almost walked in to the side of the car because she was head-down in her phone and didn't hear me.
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Look closer then. JLR just rolled out Alexa integration into all the cars since 21MY - auto hold select on the main menu aswell about a year ago. Maps also include latest charger added to the networks, mine today showed the new Instavolts at Warwick and showed 2 out of 4 were free. Polestar have added the performance pack. etc

360 could be yes. So why don't they do that, seems more real world usable to me.

My car has pedestrian warning as per UK requirements and JLR liaising with the blind association to optimise and work with future legislation rather than making it a variable safety device.
https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2018/10/sound-jaguar-i-pace-protects-road-users

No denying its good what they are doing and they have disrupted, there is just not the chasm the narrative tries to indicate. Cant blame people though, the userbase, advocates and CEO presence on the internet is pretty much force feeding it to us all.

EDIT: Heat pump on my car too...

Journey said:
Well they have a 360 camera (actually they'll have the best one) it just is implemented in the software, but I am sure they said they were looking at adding it soon. .
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Do you even realise how daft that sentence sounds? :cry:
 
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Interesting about the car not really interested in the other stuff. But it seems most Telsa owners are only interested in the tech and its straight line speed. Kind of shows where the car market is going for most, bragging rights down a pub great but are they really better cars for those who enjoy driving? Don't have a general view just an interesting thought.

If passengers dont want to look out of the window they probably already have iPad each. Really don't get why Netflix etc in a car is such a thing, how do you listen to it was not distract the driver? But this has shown tat people associate tesla as being unique with all the tech and unaware of what the other OEMs have. I mean heat pumps are in everyones kitchen but some how its on synonymous with Telsa in the EV world.

iPace blew me away how good it is too.
 
Sure the I-Pace has more available tech than the M3 but it's really not in the same price range.

Poverty spec I-Pace is £65000 and has absolutely no tech at all. Where as the M3LR has everything as standard. For example on the I-Pace to get adaptive cruise it is £1000, for pan roof £1000, etc

To spec the I-Pace to similar features as M3LR it can easily come to over £75000.

And to add premium options that aren't available on M3 like ventilated seat as you mentioned, it is a £3900 extra.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Look closer then. JLR just rolled out Alexa integration into all the cars since 21MY - auto hold select on the main menu aswell about a year ago. Maps also include latest charger added to the networks, mine today showed the new Instavolts at Warwick and showed 2 out of 4 were free. Polestar have added the performance pack. etc

360 could be yes. So why don't they do that, seems more real world usable to me.

My car has pedestrian warning as per UK requirements and JLR liaising with the blind association to optimise and work with future legislation rather than making it a variable safety device.
https://media.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2018/10/sound-jaguar-i-pace-protects-road-users

No denying its good what they are doing and they have disrupted, there is just not the chasm the narrative tries to indicate. Cant blame people though, the userbase, advocates and CEO presence on the internet is pretty much force feeding it to us all.

EDIT: Heat pump on my car too...
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The US has the pedestrian warning feature, it's just not enabled in the UK (even though my car has all the hardware).

Unfortunately the implementation in the US works in the same way as the rest of the boombox i.e. you can pick a custom sound for the pedestrian warning / running noise. You could pick an ice cream van or police siren if you wanted, so I imagine they're trying to add that without gimping the functionality which exists in other cars in the network or forking the software entirely.

I don't know why they don't "add it then". Tesla will add the 360 camera feature when it's ready. I went with the mrs to look at the Q4 e-tron and the 360 camera is an optional extra, which will never see it added in software as the hardware doesn't exist in the base (S line) spec. The way I look at it... it wasn't advertised when I bought the car but it would be amazing if it got added 5 months after I bought the car. I won't lose sleep if it never arrives though.

I think Tesla stole a march on much of the industry who are now scrambling to compete with range, features and cost.
 
Infiniteey said:
Sure the I-Pace has more available tech than the M3 but it's really not in the same price range.

Poverty spec I-Pace is £65000 and has absolutely no tech at all. Where as the M3LR has everything as standard. For example on the I-Pace to get adaptive cruise it is £1000, for pan roof £1000, etc

To spec the I-Pace to similar features as M3LR it can easily come to over £75000.

And to add premium options that aren't available on M3 like ventilated seat as you mentioned, it is a £3900 extra.
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Lol, I-Pace. I think they have to be the worst for loss of value even in this crazy second hand market a 2018/19 is ~£45k, and a Model 3 SR from a similar time is ~£36k, one lost £20k the other £2-3k. I am pretty sure that most of the remaining value is in the huge 90kWh battery that'll get you a whole 200 miles. :cry:

Also I think they only sold about 9.5k I-Pace's in 2021, I doubt Jaguar (the car brand) are going to be around much longer, the only hope is that dafties that buy over priced Range Rovers.
 
Simon said:
Why does that matter when most people just PCP cars anyway ?
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Higher monthly PCP payments? :confused:

Are we really going to say comparing the spec of a £70,000 car with a £48,000 car is irrelevant because they're being financed.
 
Infiniteey said:
Sure the I-Pace has more available tech than the M3 but it's really not in the same price range.

Poverty spec I-Pace is £65000 and has absolutely no tech at all. Where as the M3LR has everything as standard. For example on the I-Pace to get adaptive cruise it is £1000, for pan roof £1000, etc

To spec the I-Pace to similar features as M3LR it can easily come to over £75000.

And to add premium options that aren't available on M3 like ventilated seat as you mentioned, it is a £3900 extra.
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Please don't think I was directly compared them - all that stuff you can get in an Evoque or XF.

Separation to Y is pretty narrow! Just view of experienced EVs. I imagine no one else here had a leaf for 24hrs in 2013 did they?
 
EVH said:
Higher monthly PCP payments? :confused:

Are we really going to say comparing the spec of a £70,000 car with a £48,000 car is irrelevant because they're being financed.
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But they aren’t massive different on the magnitude as suggested

Anyway it’s horses for course and all good to have differences. Just nice to read some comparative comments rather than other model bashing for a change.
 
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As an owner of a M3P, I agree it lacks character, or possibly a better way to explain is that it requires almost zero mechanical sympathy. Point and go. To the point where it doesn't feel fast anymore, I just wonder why everyone else is so slow.

The question I am stuck with though is if that's really a bad thing.
 
The main reason I chose a model 3 is that it offered for me the best package at the price range I was shopping in and it was available without a silly wait time. It certainly wasn’t the best at everything but overall it was the best for me and the driving I do.

Down in the £42k range, things are a lot simpler, Model 3, polestar 2, a cross over (likely entry level for that money) or high spec ID3. The latter two I didn’t want. The i4 was always going to be too expensive.
 
EVH said:
Tesla are constantly adding features, which I don't see other manufacturers doing.
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Like Over The Air (OTA) updates - those are common too.
My Polestar gets revised functionality or new features added every couple of months. Car Play is coming in Spring and they have previously improved battery pre-conditioning, one pedal driving, range & consumption and even changed the way the electric windows go up, via software updates. Along with a load of other stuff too.
 
Simon said:
It is just a heat pump in the context of a resistive heater versus heat pump.
Do you know the difference without posting a YouTube video to support the point ?
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I'm fully aware of the difference between a heat pump and a resistive heat source. My point was that comparing two manufacturers thermal management systems is more complex than just stating if it has a heat pump.
 
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