***The Vapers Lounge***

[Devrij]

Recently started vaping and bought this kit http://www.vapeland.co.uk/ego-t-ce5-black-starter-kit-900mah-97-p.asp. So far it has been good and I haven't had the urge to smoke a real cig. I am looking for some suggestions for juice that tastes like real tobacco that gives that kick to the back of the throat. Tried some RY-4, but I find that it is a little too sweet and would like something with a bit more burn to the throat.

Since starting vaping my breathing has got a lot better, energy levels are up and my sense of smell and taste are coming back.

The best of the best I have tried is House of Liquid's El Toro range, of which El Cigarillos is my favourite. It is a very leafy tobacco taste, not necessarily the ashy dryness of a fag, but it is the best tobacco juice I've tried (it's made from soaking real cigar leaves rather than from synthesized flavourings). I would never pay for premixed liquids these days, but that's the only one I still think is worth the price. They also do one with an apple-sours-esque flavour mixed in with the same liquid that is really nice if you want something a bit lighter or more refreshing to go with it. They're just delicious.

 

[Devrij]

Just bought a E-Lites starter pack from Sainsbury's. Think I just Nicotine poisoned myself because was so used to the smoke from tobacco but kept on pulling.

I'll live.

Going forward, what's the kit I need to get - I like the idea of Cherry or Vanilla (etc) flavoured Nicotine hits that cost reasonable money.

Thjere are plenty of good liquids out there. For fruity flavours I've found Totally Wicked Gold Standard to be the most realistic and the least "hard boiled sweet" vibe.

I found it took me about 2 weeks to find a rhythm with vaping, so keep at it and you'll find your feet.

 

[Devrij]

Hello, Chaps, want to to move on to these e cigs from smoking, have browsed the forum, but still confused, what to buy. any links to good starter kits.

I think the general consensus is that it's best to steer away from the cigarette look-a-likes due to poor battery life, rubbish atomisers and (for me) more confusion with people thinking you're smoking. They are, however, a cheap way to give it a go if you don't have a lot of cash to spend. I would recommend investing in more satisfying kit if you can afford it though.

A good starter kit is anything that comes with an ego battery (also branded as tornado on the totally wicked site). They also make a variable voltage version that allows you to get more vapour/hit out of your atomiser to suit your taste (the Ego Twist). Get two so you can charge one and use the other. Any 510/ego connection charger will be fine for those. and then it's just a matter of choosing your atomiser.

I like the smok dual coil mega cartomisers for ease of use and performance. They're basically a metal tube with some wick material inside with two heating coils. Drip your liquid in and once it's soaked in you puff away all day. You'd want to replace them every 2-4 weeks as the wick wears out, and they cost about £3 each. Some people like tanks, although I find they don't always wick very well and can leave you with a horrible burnt taste. It depends what you get.

Then pick up some liquid. Are you looking to get something tobacco flavour? Or try something totally different? House of Liquid make an awesome tobacco liquid in their El Toro range called El Cigarrillos. For fruity flavours I really like Totally Wicked E-liquid's Gold Standard range. Start on 11-18mg strength and get 10ml taster bottles until you find a flavour/strength that suits you.

If you just want a basic starter kit, then this will be fine (although the atomisers that come with it are pretty average and I'm not a fan. Cheap to replace with the DC cartos I linked above if you don't get on with them) http://vapourhut.com/Ecig-Kits/Intermediate-kits/VH-Star-Kit

 

[Devrij]

Yes tobbaco flavour, could you put some links up mate, sorry for being lazy just at work at the moment.

This is my fav. It's made by soaking cigar leaves so it has a very natural leafy tobacco flavour. Deeply satisfying

http://www.houseofliquid.com/product-p/samples3.htm

El Cigarillos is the standard one, eden has an apple flavour mixed in which is quite refreshing. I like to have both available to suit my moods, but if you get just one go with the cigarillos.

Hmmm, I really want to buy some now. It's cheaper to mix your own, but theirs is just amazing

 

[Devrij]

These are extremely girly, and kind of horrible

http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessories/bc/batteries/ego-q-battery-650-900mah.html

 

[Devrij]

There are plenty of pink ego batts out there. Why not get one of them and pair it with a clear/stainless atty?

 

[Devrij]

So i've had 4 real ciggies in a week and a half, and each time they taste like crap so I think i'm done with smoking. However, the e-lites are a bit rubbish. Some cartridges have been fine, and give a good vapour hit some don't at all. It got to the point that I popped into Boots and bought a inhaler to keep the pangs at bay - but it's not subsituting for the smokes.

Got a disposable from the supermarket, 10 Motives and it's actually got a nice proper hit. So after something that can generate that density / hit. What's good?

I'd suggest picking up an ego battery or two with a charger, and then it's finding an atomiser that suits your preference. I'm a fan of the smok dual coil mega cartomisers because you only top them up once a day. I've outlined and linked those suggestions a few posts above on this page if you want to have a look.

 

[Devrij]

Not happy with the iTaste

It's a great device it works but for me there's simply not enough airflow with all the following solutions I *had* to ensure that the carto or tank was not screwed in too tightly. Leave it loose to allow for more airflow.

Setups

[1] - Tidy 10v3 @ 3.9V Good vape, good flavour but prone to dry hits :s I'm going to experiment with this more as I've only just tried it. The dry hits might be caused by the wick drying too quickly or from me not leaving it to settle for long enough - I usually fill a carto and let sit for an hour

[2] - XL Tank @ 3.9V Too tight for a good hit, good flavour - gave up with this

[3] - LR Boge @ 3.6V - Best vapour production, not as good on flavour as the above

So I'm leaning to experimenting more with Tidy 10v3 otherwise going back to the Leo Pros and LR Boges

This guy sums up my findings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpyYArKcTgo

Have you tried modding it a bit to increase airflow? I think the draw is a very personal thing. I hate an airy draw, but also dislike a very tight draw. Maybe a bit of filing will open it up a bit for you?

 

[Devrij]

Just giving the Vision STV Nova a try after using a 510 DCT for 4 months. So far so good. No leaks at all and draws a good vape. Intrigued to see how long they last against a cart.

Funnily enough, I dug out my vivi nova after disliking it intensley when I first tried it. I mixed a PG-heavy mix to improve wicking and it was actually really good on my Vamo.

My only complaints are that if it isn't tilted in the right direction (almost horizontal when it starts running below half filled) then it doesn't wick and burns, and also it started flooding really badly when laid down after a week of use with the same head. Literally 2ml of juice just disappeared down the centre into my Vamo while I was driving. Filled it at a traffic light, picked it up a few minutes later and it was nearly empty! I guess the wicks need a bit of maintenance, or the rubber seal at the top had crapped out. I went through a lot of juice with it anyway, but maybe that's where it was all going! Either way, I'm back on the Smok Mega DC again. They just work. I wish they lasted longer at peak performance though.

 

[Devrij]

Sir, I hope you're well. I got a little worried there for a second when I saw no response !

Yes you're right.... it needed more break in time and the way I was vaping previously is debatable. Almost a week on and I'm reaching for the iTaste first and what I've found with the Tidy 10s is that they prefer less viscous liquids. I haven't had a single dry hit in days.

Haha, I often miss this thread because it gets buried so quickly, so I just respond when I see it pop up.

I'd be interested in a guide to rewicking a nova if anyone knows a nice simple one. I might see how I get on. I don't even know where to get wicks and wire!

 

[Devrij]

I can't view that on my windows phone (grrr) but I'll assume it's a helpful guide so thanks! Where does one source the necessary supplies? I'm also running very low on PG and VG, so any recommendations on cheap good bases in large quantities would be awesome

 

[Devrij]

Thank you. That gives me a good starting point.

Still a bit confused tho. Do I need to buy something to put liquid in?

The liquid goes into the atomiser (the bit that heats it up and creates a liquid). They come with the kit that's linked there. The first post in this thread has some info to help you decode the jargon if you want to have a look.

 

[Devrij]

Chaps,

I recently bought an e-lites starter pack at the cost of £25 in the hope of finally quitting cigarettes, was really motivated to quit and heard good things about elites but was so disappointed. They are like sucking on a straw and leave me incredibly frustrated.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a good kit or where I'm going wrong? Sorry if this has been asked 100 times before.

Have a look at this

I think the general consensus is that it's best to steer away from the cigarette look-a-likes due to poor battery life, rubbish atomisers and (for me) more confusion with people thinking you're smoking. They are, however, a cheap way to give it a go if you don't have a lot of cash to spend. I would recommend investing in more satisfying kit if you can afford it though.

A good starter kit is anything that comes with an ego battery (also branded as tornado on the totally wicked site). They also make a variable voltage version that allows you to get more vapour/hit out of your atomiser to suit your taste (the Ego Twist). Get two so you can charge one and use the other. Any 510/ego connection charger will be fine for those. and then it's just a matter of choosing your atomiser.

I like the smok dual coil mega cartomisers for ease of use and performance. They're basically a metal tube with some wick material inside with two heating coils. Drip your liquid in and once it's soaked in you puff away all day. You'd want to replace them every 2-4 weeks as the wick wears out, and they cost about £3 each. Some people like tanks, although I find they don't always wick very well and can leave you with a horrible burnt taste. It depends what you get.

Then pick up some liquid. Are you looking to get something tobacco flavour? Or try something totally different? House of Liquid make an awesome tobacco liquid in their El Toro range called El Cigarrillos. For fruity flavours I really like Totally Wicked E-liquid's Gold Standard range. Start on 11-18mg strength and get 10ml taster bottles until you find a flavour/strength that suits you.

If you just want a basic starter kit, then this will be fine (although the atomisers that come with it are pretty average and I'm not a fan. Cheap to replace with the DC cartos I linked above if you don't get on with them) http://vapourhut.com/Ecig-Kits/Intermediate-kits/VH-Star-Kit

I think someone linked a decent VHStar kit on the last page as well.

 

[Devrij]

Thank you.

I'm about to go for that VH Star Kit, what else do I need with it? Just the liquid?

Yep. What kind of flavour were you looking at? You name it, someone has made a flavour to vape it. Seriously, there's bacon and chilli flavours out there for the brave. Also, how many did you smoke? Heavier smokers tend to start on higher strength nicotine liquids, generally 11-18mg is a good starting point.

I'm not a giant fan of the atomisers that come with that kit (others are though), but since they'll wear out after a few weeks of use anyway (atomisers are a cheap consumable) you can replace them with pretty much any other kind if you'd like to try something different. That's one of the cool things about that kit: ego batteries fit nearly every atty out there.

 

[Devrij]

On the subject of mixing your own. Ive spent just under £50 on my latest batch of liquid. Four bottles of 30ml 8mg PG. Without adding mixing bottles and other tools, If i gave you DIY'ers £50 how much liquid at 8mg could you make? Roughly.

So much. So so much. You could make about half a litre of liquid for that, depending on what flavours you went for and which nic base you got. You could get half a litre of PG/VG for 11 quid, then the nicotine and flavouring would eat up the rest.

 

[Devrij]

I have a handy little table that tells you what amount of nic base (I use 54mg), VG/PG base, and flavour you need to make 10ml, and then I just multiply them by however much I need to get the total amount.

I recommend starting with 50/50 PG/VG (get a bottle of each) to play with until you find your preference (I prefer VG heavy, but some atties don't wick as well because it's thicker). Then a bottle of 54mg nic base. Either PG or VG is fine, but if you're going VG heavy, maybe get a PG base to balance it out a bit. Then choose a few flavours. Buy some little mixing bottles and a pipette (a syringe is handy for adding your flavouring more precisely too). Then away you go.

cig-eliquid has some cheap VG/PG, but the nic base at http://www.leisureliquids.com/mixing.html is much cheaper. I just bought 100ml of their 52mg stuff so I'll let you know if it has any weird flavour castes to it.

I remember being a bit daunted by it all at first as well, but it's really a lot easier than it sounds.

 

[Devrij]

I'm on my 3rd day now and I haven't touched a cig since getting my atomiser on Sunday. I tried quitting during the Stoptober campaign, but unfortunately there was a family bereavement so I started again.

I can't get too excited. But so far I've resisted any craving by puffing on the atomiser, hopefully once all the cravings stop then I can stop using the device.

So far this thing is better than e-cigs, patches, gum. spray and stress balls. It really does work and I recommend anyone to try it.

I just wish there was more of a smoke coming from the device, but atm I'm coughing all the time, is that normal?

If the vapour is causing you to cough, you may want to try a lower nicotine strength until you get used to it. If you're just coughing a lot in general, I experienced a similar thing and it went away after a week or two, and believe it was just my lungs clearing out years of tar and ****. Consult your gp if it persists though!

Otherwise, good stuff man! I still smoked my bedtime cigarette (the hardest one for me) for about a month after I started vaping, but it just started tasting worse and worse every night so when I finally finished that pouch of baccy it wasn't too hard to let it go. Weird for the first night or two, but I got over it. If you're already on no cigs then you're doing well

Let us know if you have any questions about your device or liquids and we'll endeavour to help you out

 

[Devrij]

Costs more from my maths? cig-eliquid £36.98 for 250ml. Lesureliquids is £8.99 per 50ml which is £44.95 for the same amount. Can you buy bigger bottles at more of a discount for bulk that I can't find?

Bugger, I only saw 20ml bottles! Ah well lol.

Majnu, there are some good suggestions on the last page of this thread, have a look through those and ask away if you have any more questions.

The burnt taste is no good at all. That means that your e-cig has run dry, or that it isn't wicking the liquid through to the atomiser properly. I don't know what sort of thing you're using so I can't offer much help there I'm afraid.

 

[Devrij]

im glad i found this thread. I have been spending almost £50 a week on electronic cigarettes, e lites. Nicolites, jensons. elite refills etc. I havent smoked any real cigs but im actually worse off money wise now because now i sit in the house smoking them where as i used to go outside.

I am looking for some good starter tips for tobacco and interesting flavoured liquids and i also need to know ( no more than say £50) which is the best kit to get for the actual vaping devices.

i know ill need 2 batteries so i can charge one while i smoke the other etc. Any advice and links if possible would be well appreciated, i have read back through the thread but i am truly overwhelmed by the choice and selection of these devices.

thank you

If you have a look at the second post on this page I wrote a pretty lengthy post with some of my standard recommendations. You should save a lot of money moving away from disposables!

 

[Devrij]

I think the general consensus is that it's best to steer away from the cigarette look-a-likes due to poor battery life, rubbish atomisers and (for me) more confusion with people thinking you're smoking. They are, however, a cheap way to give it a go if you don't have a lot of cash to spend. I would recommend investing in more satisfying kit if you can afford it though.

A good starter kit is anything that comes with an ego battery (also branded as tornado on the totally wicked site). They also make a variable voltage version that allows you to get more vapour/hit out of your atomiser to suit your taste (the Ego Twist). Get two so you can charge one and use the other. Any 510/ego connection charger will be fine for those. and then it's just a matter of choosing your atomiser.

I like the smok dual coil mega cartomisers for ease of use and performance. They're basically a metal tube with some wick material inside with two heating coils. Drip your liquid in and once it's soaked in you puff away all day. You'd want to replace them every 2-4 weeks as the wick wears out, and they cost about £3 each. Some people like tanks, although I find they don't always wick very well and can leave you with a horrible burnt taste. It depends what you get.

Then pick up some liquid. Are you looking to get something tobacco flavour? Or try something totally different? House of Liquid make an awesome tobacco liquid in their El Toro range called El Cigarrillos. For fruity flavours I really like Totally Wicked E-liquid's Gold Standard range. Start on 11-18mg strength and get 10ml taster bottles until you find a flavour/strength that suits you.

If you just want a basic starter kit, then this will be fine (although the atomisers that come with it are pretty average and I'm not a fan. Cheap to replace with the DC cartos I linked above if you don't get on with them) http://vapourhut.com/Ecig-Kits/Intermediate-kits/VH-Star-Kit

For you guys asking about starting up with new kit, here are some suggestions I posted earlier.

Alternatively, this kit contains most of the above, but with different atomisers. You can always buy new atomiser heads to fit these batteries as they have a standard fitting, but those batteries are a good starting point to branch out from until you find an atomiser that suits your preferences (I prefer the smok dual coil cartos linked in the quoted bit above)

http://vapourhut.com/Ecig-Kits/Intermediate-kits/VH-Star-Kit