***The Vapers Lounge***

[Devrij]

A bit behind the times, but just got my Lavatube yesterday. Really liking it so far... simple, not too flashy and just works great. Awesome.

A mate came to visit last week with his shiny new Tesla. Lovely bit of kit.

They're a big step above the standard batteries alright. I got some great use out of mine. The build quality on mine (V2.1) was pretty rubbish and eventually the threads gave up the ghost, which is why I now carry the police baton that is my Vamo, which I love to bits.

i'm considering a PROVARI V2.5, would you say that a did setup is better?

If I'm honest, I wouldn't recommend spending that much on a device this early on, but the provari is a great device. As far as rebuildable atomisers go, I'd leave that for now, as they aren't very beginner friendly (not at all). Perhaps something like a Vivi Nova would work as a user-friendly tank atty to go on a provari or any other good variable voltage device. Like I said there are much cheaper options than spending £150 on a provari! Perhaps start out with a Lavatube or Vamo if you want to try bigger variable voltage mods without dumping huge amounts of cash into the problem. Either of those, or even the suggestions I made above, will be leaps and bounds ahead of supermarket disposables.

 

[Devrij]

150 quid ?!!

Someone explain to me how what is esentially a battery is worth a hundred and fifty quid. That's just mad

Exactly my thoughts. They're very well built and last forever, they look good, the circuitry is very consistent etc, but that's still a tonne of money. Almost as bad as the GG stuff.

I got my Vamo and 2 good batteries for under £70, and I don't feel the need to spend twice as much on just the device.

 

[Devrij]

been and bought a liberty flights vision-ego. Got a tobacco bottle free with it. Benson and hedges, grape and apple bottle of liquid. If its good ill buy another tomorrow so i can charge one and smoke the other etc. Also then i can use 2 different flavours and chop and change.

anyone reccomend any really good liquids to try with this? im open to suggestions.

It's a very personal thing, but if you like fruity/chocolate flavours, I've found totally wicked's gold standard to be very close to the real thing as opposed to the "boiled candy" effect some fruit flavours have. Their melon is just delicious, as is the blueberry. Decadent vapours Lotus Flower is great if they still make it. Citrus flavours can be very refreshing to vape in the evening over some games

If you want something very tobacco, look no further than House of Liquid's El Toro range, with El Cigarillos being the best tobacco juice I've ever vaped (made from soaking cigar leaf, it has a very natural smoky flavour). it's a bit pricey, but worth it. The apple accented flavour in that range is really nice too, but not as good as the el cigarillos imo. Most "tobacco" flavours taste like a freshly opened pack of fags smells (kind of raisin-y) and don't really do much for me.

RY4 is good, but they vary a lot. I too am a fan of the cloud9 stuff, because I like mine a bit sweeter, and I find the Hangsen a little less so, but still very good. They make a very good "all day vape" as they hit that nutty/savoury spot while still giving a pleasant sweetness.

Always buy 10ml bottles until you find something that you like, because the descriptions can be a bit misleading. There are always people on here with stuff to trade if you don't like them.

 

[Devrij]

1st quandry then fellas, ive tried the benson and hedges e liquid 1st and its grim and quite harsh, tastes pretty bad to me http://www.i-breathe.co.uk/Benson-and-Hedges-Gold-Flavour-liquid-refill-cartridge-for-electric-cigarettes

do i just let it pour out then rinse the cartomiser and put a different liquid in?

and does anyone want the above liquid?

Yeah, just rinse it in warm water and leave it to dry (this takes a while because they're designed to absorb liquid!). Sometimes it doesn't go completely and you either suck it up until the replacement liquid takes over, or just bin it. Give it a go first of course.

I'm not a fan of most tobacco liquids since they don't really taste like a cig. You can always try mixing a bit of caramel flavour into it to soften it up. Oooooh, if you can, get a decent coffee flavour (some are rancid, but Decadent vapours cappucino is good) and mix it with caramel. It is the bomb.

 

[Devrij]

Just ordered a 5-pack of totally wicked gold standard concentrates:

Elderflower
Columbia Coffee
Real Tabs (supposedly a good ashy cigarette flavour)
Honeydew Melon
Gooseberry

I love their blueberry for its realistic taste, and I tried a friend's honeydew melon from them and loved it, so I'm hoping the rest are as good. Excited! I'll report back when I get them on the go

 

[Devrij]

Postie just delivered my Vapour Hut starter kit.
What I nice setup. I also got some El Cigarillos liquid from World of Liquid. Tastes really good.

Glad you like it. It's one of my favs

I received delivery of 500ml of PG/VG today, as well as a bunch of nic base, but most importantly, I got my flavour concentrates from TW.

I have so far mixed up 50ml of base fluid at 12mg (it's really strong so I may have lost count while putting the PG in and brought it to about 18mg )

I just fired up some of the gooseberry, and my god it's powerful stuff. I mixed it at about 11%, which seems a bit strong. I does, however, taste like gooseberrys, with a slight hint of tangfastics mixed in. It has quite a sharp floral tone to it. I'll see if that mellows at all after some time to steep.

Real Tabs. This is one I approach with trepidation, because "tobacco" concentrates tend to be miles off the real thing. This advertises itself as recreating that "ashy vape" so I decided to give it a go. It's actually quite good. It still has that raisin-y taste like how a pack of fags smells when opened, but there's definitely something else to it that adds substance. Still, not exactly an ashy cigarette taste really. Nice to vape though.

The others I'll get round to later. I think I may need to let the large base mixture blend a bit, because my head is flying from all the nicotine!

 

[Devrij]

Well guys I'm after some upgrade advice!

I currently use the Riva 1100 deluxe kit, but I'm on my second set of batteries now and they seem to be dying far quicker than the first lot!

What would the logical next step be in vaping kit wise?

I use the boge 510 cartos currently but something with a little more liquid capacity would be good

Thanks

Maybe consider something with a 2200mah battery, maybe a variable voltage device? The Vamo is reasonably affordable for an upgrade and a section unscrews so you can have it in mini-mode for when you're on the go. The boge cartos are still decent, although I prefer the smok dc megas which hold about 3ml in them.

 

[Devrij]

My bad :

http://www.vapeescape.co.uk/ego-vv-vw-18650-mod-vamo~466

This thing?

That's the one You'll need a couple 18650 (shorter if you want to use it in mini mode) batts and a charger to go with them though, so you'd be looking at about £70-80 all told. Very nice though. I have the stainless one and it's superb.

Got mine here
http://www.vapingthings.com/VAPING_KITS_AND_MODS/cat1311953_1222072.aspx

And I got some great panasonic batts from somewhere else for about £15

 

[Devrij]

Point missed.

They may have been using an e-cig for years, but they're no longer smoking. Hence, they have successfully quit smoking.

Quitting smoking, and giving up nicotine aren't the same thing. Saying not to bother if all you're going to do is move to a safer alternative is like telling someone who has been smacking themselves in the head with a brick for the past 20 minutes not to bother switching to that rubber mallet if they're not going to stop completely. It makes no sense.

The real test comes when their e-cig fails or they run out of juice, though. Either you suck it up (in another sense) or end up with a fag in your mouth.

This neatly sums up my opinion on this. I tried quitting smoking many times throughout the 13 years I smoked and failed. So the whole cold turkey thing didn't work for me (I got horrible panic attacks and couldn't cope), but I haven't smoked in the last 2 years because I now use ecigs. That works nicely for me since nicotine itself is far less harmful than the ingredients of a cigarette. I don't smoke anymore, although I'm still a nicotine addict. I have nicotine in abundance, so that suits me down to the ground.

There seems to be some stigma attached to nicotine addiction that isn't applied to caffeine addicts or other reasonably harmless drugs. no one tells people that switching to decaf is pointless.

If e cigs help you reduce the harm smoking is causing you then that's a positive thing. It also provides a way to reduce your nicotine intake while still simulating smoking, if that's what you want.

 

[Devrij]

I was just about to start/search for an e-cig thread and funnily enough this was at the top!

4 months for me now, just started mixing, and loving it.

Now to find the e-cig thread.

Here you go

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18289509

 

[Devrij]

I've quit smoking for 3 days now and its been easy thanks to my e lites ciggy although looking through this thread and seeing what flavour fluids you can get makes me really want to try a proper vaper cig.

What would you guys recommend for a decent starter kit? Only want to spend around £30 and I'd like to keep the cig low maintenance if possible.

Try the VH Star kit here
http://vapourhut.com/Ecig-Kits/Intermediate-kits/VH-Star-Kit

All you need then is some liquid to go in and you're done. Those batteries are compatible with the vast majority of atomisers out there so when the ones that come with it wear out (usually under a month's use) you can try out other atomisers (they only cost a few quid at most). I'm a big fan of these
http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessori...artomisers/510-mega-dual-coil-cartomiser.html

As far as choosing your liquid goes, get small 10ml bottles at first, because some of them might not be to your taste.

 

[Devrij]

Cheers Devrij!

I did just see a microlite kit on totally wicked http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/products/disposables-and-cartomizer-kits-2/cartomizer-kits/microlite-kit/tecc-microlite-cartomiser-kit-black-product.html

Are they any good? I like the idea of the rechargable case and i can hold 5 carts at the same time.

I have heard others say positive things about them, but I prefer to carry one spare battery and a plastic dropper bottle of liquid instead of a box of tricks. The microlites are good if you want something that looks like a cigarette, but I find the batteries aren't as reliable or long lasting. They aren't as good in terms of performance, but they 're small and light.

 

[Devrij]

Devrij - What tank would I use for it to sit flush with one of the battery setups you suggested for me? I have a feeling that a 510 boge will get snapped off in that

You could use the boges in there no problem. It will fit any ego/510 atty in there (with a very few exceptions where the skirt is very wide). I use the Vivi Nova and smok mega dual coil cartos (I get mine from e-cig wizard, but you could probably shop around).

 

[Devrij]

So, really liking the VH Star kit. I went from 30 analogue cigs a day on Friday to 0 today. Feeling just fine.

I'm find it a bit difficult to get my head around what canisters/atomizers I should get as replacements going forwards. I like the ones with the kit as they hold lots of fluid but I can't see any direct replacements for them on the VH site for when they burn out.
What do you guys recommend?

Also, I'm really liking vaping as a vice in itself so should I invest in a variable voltage kit?

Just ordered the VH Star kit

I'm also interested in different canistors and atomizers. What do you need to look at for compatability between batteries etc? A bit confused

You'll hear the ego or 510 connector being discussed a lot when it comes to batteries/atties. The 510 fitting doesn't have a "skirt" around it, and generally fits any device. Ego atties have a skirt for aesthetic purposes, but essentially they're just a 510 screw fitting.

Pretty much any atty will fit on the batteries that come with the VH star kit, because the ego batteries it uses have an eg0/510 fitting. Ego atties will fit flush with the skirt meeting the battery, 510 atties will be thinner. Some will look better on it than others, but they'll all work.

As for which one to choose? It's a matter of preference really. I always recommend the smok mega dual coil cartomisers because a) they hold a lot of liquid and don't require topping up more than once a day, b) they never give a burnt taste unless you run them really really really dry, but you'd notice a drop in vapour before then, and c) they're easy to use and cheap to replace. They do lose their best effect quite quickly though (I tend to swap them out within 2 weeks when the flavour/vapour starts to drop off, sometimes sooner).

These are the 510 fitting with no skirt
http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessori...artomisers/510-mega-dual-coil-cartomiser.html

These are the same with the ego fitting (notice the skirt). You'll want these if you have an ego battery (the ones that come with the VH star kit) because they'll look nicer.
http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessori...a-dual-coil-cartomiser-black-5ml-tornado.html

I'm pretty sure the VH star comes with vision ego clearomisers, but I think they have a bit of a plasticky taste when you start using them. Again, a matter of preference.

Some of the guys on here like the boge 510 cartos because they're dirt cheap and do the job well
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=108

Try them out for yourself and see what you like best. You can pick up a few for less than a pack of fags

 

[Devrij]

Also Devrij, out of interest do you take yours out in full size glory?! They look mahoosive

I do indeed, it's either in my hand, on my desk, or in my pocket at all times. I keep meaning to pick up a small battery for nights out, but just haven't gotten round to it. I got mine from vaping things, so they're legit, and you might save a few quid that way.

 

[Devrij]

Im not a heavy smoker, id say medium-ish.. Ive tried the E-Cigs from the local shops... they are "OK" as I don't have anything better to base them on I like the whole aspect of vaping so I am going to order http://www.ecigwizard.com/electronic-cigarette-starter-kits/starter-bundle/standardbundle.html which is a starter kit but after doing some research Im seeing these huge batteries (Whats the vapor terminology?) with more capacity and voltage settings what disappointed me with E Cigs was the effort to get a decent draw now knowing this as an issue before I buy the starter kit would it be worth me buying an alternative battery with different voltage settings to get an easier big vapor draw or would you recommend me crossing that bridge If I happen to not be happy with the strength of the draw from the starter kit?

Also, I smoke roughly around 6/10 BH Silver per day, What strength mixture would be recommended I was thinking 6MG Low, rather than Medium/High.. thoughts?

You can always go for a variable voltage device later on if you feel like it, but I don't think you'd need one to start with. 6mg is quite low, but the only reason I vape 12mg is to get more of a throat hit, rather than for the nicotine itself

 

[Devrij]

Hi, apologies for not reading the whole thread.
I am a habitual smoker, i give them up regualry, but cant seem to stay off them.
Eg, gave up for new year, last week in the pub, had a few fags as i was tipsy, and now back to my 20 a day habit

I am interested in these, as i am now thinking long term, and i may be better off with these, than stopping and starting the fags every few months.

I looked at the VH Star Kit that Rilot got, i take it these are a good starter kit?

Our kit has been put together to give you everything you need to start vaping.
•10x Prefilled disposable cartomizers - 5 high strength tobacco flavour, 5 medium strength tobacco flavour, How long does a cartomiser last for?
•2x 290mah batteries
•1x usb wall adaptor
•1x usb charger
•2x rubber tips
•1x lanyard What is this for?

And i take it you get full instructions on how to use it with the pack?

The lanyard is for hanging it around your neck I guess. Quite handy if you don't have pockets

I'd go with the VH star kit tbh. The batteries hold over twice as much charge (less time charging or worrying about battery life), and the atomisers that come with it are better.

 

[Devrij]

I have read some of the thread and looked at loads of sites but still none the wiser.

I want one that looks like a cigarette it can be refilled easy, I've looked at the 510 Titan Tank compact kit from TW
but still would love some help here.

Thanks

The titan kit will be the best compromise between cigarette size and good performance, but an ego battery (the ones that come with this kit) with a smok mega dual coil cartomiser is the size of a small cigar, but with better performance. Also easy to fill and use. Tank systems can be a bit finnicky when it comes to wicking (sometimes they burn dry or flood).

 

[Devrij]

You'll hear the ego or 510 connector being discussed a lot when it comes to batteries/atties. The 510 fitting doesn't have a "skirt" around it, and generally fits any device. Ego atties have a skirt for aesthetic purposes, but essentially they're just a 510 screw fitting.

Pretty much any atty will fit on the batteries that come with the VH star kit, because the ego batteries it uses have an eg0/510 fitting. Ego atties will fit flush with the skirt meeting the battery, 510 atties will be thinner. Some will look better on it than others, but they'll all work.

As for which one to choose? It's a matter of preference really. I always recommend the smok mega dual coil cartomisers because a) they hold a lot of liquid and don't require topping up more than once a day, b) they never give a burnt taste unless you run them really really really dry, but you'd notice a drop in vapour before then, and c) they're easy to use and cheap to replace. They do lose their best effect quite quickly though (I tend to swap them out within 2 weeks when the flavour/vapour starts to drop off, sometimes sooner).

These are the 510 fitting with no skirt
http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessori...artomisers/510-mega-dual-coil-cartomiser.html

These are the same with the ego fitting (notice the skirt). You'll want these if you have an ego battery (the ones that come with the VH star kit) because they'll look nicer.
http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessori...a-dual-coil-cartomiser-black-5ml-tornado.html

I'm pretty sure the VH star comes with vision ego clearomisers, but I think they have a bit of a plasticky taste when you start using them. Again, a matter of preference.

Some of the guys on here like the boge 510 cartos because they're dirt cheap and do the job well
http://www.liberty-flights.co.uk/product.asp?id=108

Try them out for yourself and see what you like best. You can pick up a few for less than a pack of fags

Thanks
So the smok mega will fit the VH star kit?

I now know what it feels like to be a women in a large dress and shoe shop

lol, it is a bit of a minefield at first. The batteries that come with the kit are Ego batteries. They'll accept either 510 or ego fit atomisers. The only difference between the two is the skirt on the ego atties (which just makes it sit flush against the battery for better aesthetic appeal.

 

[Devrij]

Thanks



Snap.
I just started reading this thread last night, so many new words/terminology to learn, reminds me of when i first started reading up on overclocking lol.

I made a little glossary in the OP, but let me know if there are any particular topics of confusion for you guys and I'll add more info to it.