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Poll: The Vega Review Thread.

What do we think about Vega?

  • What has AMD been doing for the past 1-2 years?

  • It consumes how many watts and is how loud!!!

  • It is not that bad.

  • Want to buy but put off by pricing and warranty.

  • I will be buying one for sure (I own a Freesync monitor so have little choice).

  • Better red than dead.


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Standalone Vega 64 at £550 is not aimed at gamers. It is aimed at miners.

That's the only logical explanation I can come up with for this price. AMD cannot afford to sell this for less without making a loss (as Gibbo has suggested) and they know it doesn't compete with the 1080 on either price or power consumption, and only matches its performance. It has no attraction to any sensible consumer who is not tied into Freesync, unless your a miner.

AMD knows this. They knew it would fly off the shelf under current market conditions which is in the midst of a mining craze. It's a good business move.

Like I said before, if you're a gamer, the decision is clear.

Relying on miners to buy a crap card for mining .... it's a .... well it's not any strategy anyone would ever think to do.
 
Standalone Vega 64 at £550 is not aimed at gamers. It is aimed at miners.

That's the only logical explanation I can come up with for this price. AMD cannot afford to sell this for less without making a loss (as Gibbo has suggested) and they know it doesn't compete with the 1080 on either price or power consumption, and only matches its performance. It has no attraction to any sensible consumer who is not tied into Freesync, unless your a miner.

AMD knows this. They knew it would fly off the shelf under current market conditions which is in the midst of a mining craze. It's a good business move.

Like I said before, if you're a gamer, the decision is clear.

Sadly this seems true to me.

AMD don't have much money, a tech company without much money can't do much R&D, this is the result, a higher clocked Fury-X.

The worrying thing is they ain't going to get any more money for R&D because they ain't going to sell enough of these.

Sadly i think nVidia are now on their own, AMD still have the RX series cards, they are quite good for where they are in the price range, but thats it... are not even remotely competitive really and when Volta comes out in 6 months no one is going to buy any GPU's from them.

I think this is the end of AMD in the gaming GPU space, aside from scrapping the bottom of the barrel for a few quid here and there....
 
just watched a youtuber called Joker , he has been informed by AMD that SEP as in the marketing , meant Suggested E-tailer price, so I'm guessing the price increases are down to the Retailers.
 
Standalone Vega 64 at £550 is not aimed at gamers. It is aimed at miners.
Obviously not because you can get better mining cards for the money. At £550 it's aimed at gamers, professionals and a mix of the two, its not as much of an instabuy as it was at £450 but it's still a good offer for anyone who doesn't own a Gsync monitor or use their computer for nothing but games (or both).
 
Well AMD have now backed themselves into a corner. The £450 priced cards have to make an appearance now and the "launch offer" should become a permanent one. Unless of course it's yet more smoke and mirrors.

and the e-tailers like ocuk, they can't price gouge now, because gibbo said he was trying his hardest to get the cards at standalone MSRP, catch 22, hence why I mentioned that we should be seeing the cards on pre order soon at 450 ish £, because AMD have confirmed it was only a stock problem.
 
just watched a youtuber called Joker , he has been informed by AMD that SEP as in the marketing , meant Suggested E-tailer price, so I'm guessing the price increases are down to the Retailers.

Gibbo here confirmed that AMD provided/approved a few hundred units for launch day at the lower price, he said ocuk's buying price for the rest of the stock was higher than that suggested etailer price, so its not retailer gouging, this is hardware pricing from AMD and the AIB's.
 
Gibbo here confirmed that AMD provided/approved a few hundred units for launch day at the lower price, he said ocuk's buying price for the rest of the stock was higher than that suggested etailer price, so its not retailer gouging, this is hardware pricing from AMD and the AIB's.

Only 30 AIO's though, That's what I was told the day after, So when I ordered at 2.10pm due to waiting in line on the phone I missed it.
 
Sadly this seems true to me.

AMD don't have much money, a tech company without much money can't do much R&D, this is the result, a higher clocked Fury-X.

Is bit better than a FuryX. At 60% higher clocks, it's 70% the performance, but not enough imho.
The chip is 71.2% bigger. 12.5 billion transistors into a 486 mm² compared to 8.9 billion transistors into 596 mm².

Imho AMD will have to pull another Ryzen or else going to see a stagnated decade on GPUs now.
 
Strix preview is out. Asus in a strong position as they didn't agree to profit reduction with reference cards and didn't bother realising them , hope they can offer a good price and others will follow suit
 
Gibbo here confirmed that AMD provided/approved a few hundred units for launch day at the lower price, he said ocuk's buying price for the rest of the stock was higher than that suggested etailer price, so its not retailer gouging, this is hardware pricing from AMD and the AIB's.
I wasn't aiming my criticism at Jibbo, far from it. Ocuk were the only place selling them at £450 , I bought one couldn't be happier. no every other Etailer I checked were £550-600
 
Strix preview is out. Asus in a strong position as they didn't agree to profit reduction with reference cards and didn't bother realising them , hope they can offer a good price and others will follow suit

LOL, asus offer a good price? They're likely to dig their heels in deeper if anything. If they had released the reference card with their sticker on it you can bet it would be marked up over the others just because of the sticker.
 
Hmm, the Asus reviews seem to show the cooler really helping with stabilizing clocks (and noise, holy cow) but that just allows the wattage to creep up even more when "heavily" overclocked; plus that heat isn't magically gone, its just moved along more efficiently and without a blower fan it is going into your case.

I like how they didn't allow the reviewers to disassemble the cards. No early review for Gamers Nexus, I'm guessing, LOL. Wonder if they cheaped out on the components to bring the cost down compared to the overkill reference models. Don't expect a lower retail price, though.
 
Hmm,the Asus reviews seem to show the cooler really helping with stabilizing clocks (and noise, holy cow) but that just allows the wattage to creep up even more when "heavily" overclocked; plus that heat isn't magically gone, its just moved along more efficiently and without a blower fan it is going into your case.

I like how they didn't allow the reviewers to disassemble the cards. No early review for Gamers Nexus, I'm guessing, LOL. Wonder if they cheaped out on the components to bring the cost down compared to the overkill reference models. Don't expect a lower retail price, though.

I think it uses a different BIOS to the reference card, allowing for more power usage.

The price will be stupid as it's Asus, but like any company they will sell them at a price that sells and maximizes profits, must be a lot of Asus fans out there.
 
I don't get this "it doesn't compete with 1080"...yes it does it's right at 1080 level meaning it's performance is most definitely competing with it. I've been benching mine, and even on a 3770k and 1600mhz ddr3 my benching scores beat plenty of1080's on the leaderboards. It's actually right slap in between 1080 and 1080ti yet no one cares to see that, just jump on the hate train....its easy.
It just about competes with a stock 1080FE.

Certainly not a decently overclocked AIB card.

That's all fine and dandy as long as it's priced appropriately. Which currently it isn't. As for benching well try the Heaven benchmark and you'll be among the 780ti's!

Of course benchmarks don't equate to gaming fps and aren't always the best yardstick as both our examples show!
 
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