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Can someone enlighten me as to the whole Gamu plight? I cant really be arsed to read about it.

As far as I was aware she came to the UK as the dependent of her mother who came on a student visa to study and simply stayed on after it expired. So as far as I know of it, they didnt flee the country because they were in danger at all. Admittedly I havent read much of it, but from what I can see there was no prior mention of being in danger in Zimbabwe until deportation was mentioned.

Visa got denied/revoked because there were claims that her mum tried to claim benefit to which she wasn't entitled.

God knows why they think Mugabe is after her.
 
For some odd reason I wanted Nicolo to stay in. He's talented and just the right side of being a little crazy.

Katie should be next out the door! Can't stand her.
 
For some odd reason I wanted Nicolo to stay in. He's talented and just the right side of being a little crazy.

Katie should be next out the door! Can't stand her.


I totally Agree with you Orange Peel! there is deffo something about Nicolo, granted he isnt the best singer but he isnt the worst! Last night I think Katie and that Wagner, Vagner, wan*** whatever his name is should have left!!!!
 
Are you guys kidding? Nicolo's performance was easily the worst of the lot, and that's saying something!
 
what part of his statement was racist?

there were no racially loaded slurs, or generalisations or stereotypes listed nor he he say she should leave because of her race? not the place for this, but on the fron page of the paper today it confirmed that some 150,000 failed asylum seekers had been granted an amnesty meaning they could stay, despite not meeting our criteria.

its a shame we have running the country the people that we do. how could they let that happen, and actually MAKE it happen without fighting it?

It's racially charged as far as I'm concerned. Check his post history, in the speaker's corner he makes specific reference to 'ragheads' and 'greedy arabs'. I therefore stand by my original post.
 
but he never said anything about either in this one. its like you inferred it as racist when actually, it isnt beyond a reasonable thing to say. but because you may or may not disagree you have labelled it a racist post.

but it isnt.
 
I didn't particuarly like either of the acts which left so I'm happy with the result.

Nicolo seemed like a bit of a twonk to be honest and his lady gaga performance was awful.

F.Y.D didn't deserve to be in the bottom 3 but their last performance was worse than Katie's so I'm glad the judges made the right decision and didn't pussy out and take the viewers choice.

I don't know why Louis puts joke acts through - Wagner / Jedward before, it just devalues the competition imo, people will always vote for them because they are "entertaining" whilst they don't really have any talent.
 
Having never watched it before (was on in the pub tonight), I have to say I was really surprised. Half of the so called finalists actually cannot sing, at all. Has it become a parody of itself or something?

The Bill Baily/Ron Jeremy looking one is awful, as are the five Biebers and Cherlys Mini Me.

PMSL

They should have called their "band" that "The Five Biebers" LMAO

Cher is Cheryl's mini-me it's just pefect even has half her name.
 
Are you guys kidding? Nicolo's performance was easily the worst of the lot, and that's saying something!

Nope, not kidding at all. He can sing very well but was given the wrong song.

So sure he probably should have gone on the night.

I said I didn't want him to go as I prefer him to some of the others, epsecially Katie. Not that his performance was better than others.
 
I think the Gamu thing is sad.

Mostly due to the fact that the mum is working hard and tried to make a go of things with her husband who was in the UK for the benefit of the kids. Let's start by kicking illegal immigrants out that commit crime or don't even want to work. Gamu was going to go to Uni and enjoyed her life here why would haters want her deported and smile when she's gone. That kind of hate is dangerous.
 
I don't know why Louis puts joke acts through - Wagner / Jedward before, it just devalues the competition imo, people will always vote for them because they are "entertaining" whilst they don't really have any talent.

It's a Saturday night entertainment show it should be entertaining...

If we want real singing we go to concert buy an album :D
 
I think the Gamu thing is sad.

Mostly due to the fact that the mum is working hard and tried to make a go of things with her husband who was in the UK for the benefit of the kids. Let's start by kicking illegal immigrants out that commit crime or don't even want to work. Gamu was going to go to Uni and enjoyed her life here why would haters want her deported and smile when she's gone. That kind of hate is dangerous.

Whilst I agree that the first to go should be the criminals or those that dont want to work, the facts cannot be denied that she still claimed £16,000 in benefits that she wasnt technically entitled to. You could call that fraud, which would be committing a crime and thus should be kicked out by your criteria.

I just dont think we can start defining illegal immigrants on a case by case basis like that, it would take forever to deal with the large numbers of them. Put simply, an illegal immigrant is illegal and so should be deported, there are correct procedures and avenues that are required in order to be a legal immigrant and thats the route that should be followed by everyone regardless of their morals, their ethics or their ability to sing. For me its got nothing to do with hate, though given that these days you can barely say a thing without some liberal claiming you hate <insert whatever>, its not surprising that its viewed that way.. for me its simply got to do with following the right protocols and procedures and that being applied to all who wish to stay permanently.
 
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I think the Gamu thing is sad.

Mostly due to the fact that the mum is working hard and tried to make a go of things with her husband who was in the UK for the benefit of the kids. Let's start by kicking illegal immigrants out that commit crime or don't even want to work. Gamu was going to go to Uni and enjoyed her life here why would haters want her deported and smile when she's gone. That kind of hate is dangerous.

Whilst I agree that the first to go should be the criminals or those that dont want to work, the facts cannot be denied that she still claimed £16,000 in benefits that she wasnt technically entitled to. You could call that fraud, which would be committing a crime and thus should be kicked out by your criteria.

I just dont think we can start defining illegal immigrants on a case by case basis like that, it would take forever to deal with the large numbers of them. Put simply, an illegal immigrant is illegal and so should be deported, there are correct procedures and avenues that are required in order to be a legal immigrant and thats the route that should be followed by everyone regardless of their morals, their ethics or their ability to sing. For me its got nothing to do with hate, though given that these days you can barely say a thing without some liberal claiming you hate <insert whatever>, its not surprising that its viewed that way.. for me its simply got to do with following the right protocols and procedures and that being applied to all who wish to stay permanently.

That sums it up for me!
 
But if her mum has gainful employment would it not be worth making her work off her debt? Purely as a cost/benefit exercise deporting her is going to cost vast sums more than simply demanding she repay the claimed cash. Also it's not clear cut case either she didn't come over on the back of a lorry.
 
But if her mum has gainful employment would it not be worth making her work off her debt? Purely as a cost/benefit exercise deporting her is going to cost vast sums more than simply demanding she repay the claimed cash. Also it's not clear cut case either she didn't come over on the back of a lorry.

So, you are suggesting that because her daughter has appeared on xfactor, she should be given special dispensation to be an "over stayer" and not be deported, even though she has broken the law with regards to benefit fraud?
 
I think the Gamu thing is sad.

Mostly due to the fact that the mum is working hard and tried to make a go of things with her husband who was in the UK for the benefit of the kids. Let's start by kicking illegal immigrants out that commit crime or don't even want to work. Gamu was going to go to Uni and enjoyed her life here why would haters want her deported and smile when she's gone. That kind of hate is dangerous.

You are aware that large sections of this country read the Daily Mail and are intolerably stupid?
 
But if her mum has gainful employment would it not be worth making her work off her debt? Purely as a cost/benefit exercise deporting her is going to cost vast sums more than simply demanding she repay the claimed cash. Also it's not clear cut case either she didn't come over on the back of a lorry.

Gainful employment or not, the fact is that she is still here illegally. No she didnt come over on the back of a lorry but the method of entry is hardly the point is it, the point is that there are correct legal channels for immigration, nobody...nobody at all should be able to simply ignore those channels whilst others have to follow them. I'm not saying she cant be here, I'm simply saying that she should be deported and made to follow the correct procedures to acquire legitimate immigration to the UK. You say its not clear cut, but in fact it is indeed extremely clear cut... Is she here legally? No. There..cant really get much more clear cut than that.

Having said that, I now fully expect the politicians , eager to score some PR brownie points will bow to the media pressure and allow her to stay.
 
I would be very annoyed if they allowed her to stay if they let her stay they have to do the same with the others, no one would have known about this girl if it wasn't for the X-Factor so does this give her the right to have special treatment over anyone else.
 
To be honest if she sells an album here that does ok, she'll pay back the state in tax / stimulated economy. Not saying I think the rules shouldn't be followed - just saying she won't be a drain on the state.
 
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