This is getting ridiculous (energy prices - Strictly NO referrals!)

FBi7 · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:21

chaparral said:
who electricity bill is only £66 pm

Mine £200

My combined gas/electric DD was £60something a month until my fixed rate ended last month. Now SP want £200+/month and they won't let me reduce that amount. We're (well I am, the 3 other ladies in my house, not so) always turning everything off when not in use, so I'm confident/hopeful I can get that down to sub-£200. Only gas we use is for the hot water, on for 30 mins/day with the occasional top up when the 3 wummin decide they all want baths.

Come winter, I'll have a better idea how I'm doing. My log burner does heat the whole house, but the Mrs won't use it, so when I'm at work, she'll stick the CH on.

I don't think I've had any formal communication from SP yet as to how the £400 rebate will be applied.

muon · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:26

chaparral said:
who electricity bill is only £66 pm

Mine £200

The average person is only at £1971 for gas and electricity for the year.

Richie · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:26

bigmike20vt said:
so I have read conflicting bits and bobs. this £66 a month is it going directly on our energy accounts (sensible imo) or is it going into our bank accounts (not bothered either way but doesn't seem sensible imo)

the shadow said:
directly on our energy accounts

It depends on the supplier. Some are putting it directly on the energy account and others are paying it into bank accounts.

chaparral said:
who electricity bill is only £66 pm

Mine £200

My entire bill for both elec and gas is £80 (averaged over the year)

Take the SC off and it's £55/month

Greebo · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:28

n111ck said:
Eon’s website now says ‘The new cap level does not apply to you right now if you are on a fixed-term tariff.’ Wtf?

Well if you are still on a say a 14p per Kwh fixed tariff did you expect them to reduce it by 17p per kWh and pay you 3p per kWh??????????

Greebo · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:29

chaparral said:
who electricity bill is only £66 pm

Mine £200

Me. Currently £64 per month

darael · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:29

chaparral said:
who electricity bill is only £66 pm

Mine £200

Probably the same people who slipped Joe Bloggs some reddies to bypass their electric meter.

Richie · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:30

Richie said:
@Zenduri

What with the £66/month being paid to our Eon energy bills, will they allow me to drop my monthly payment by that amount once Oct hits?

Tried to just now but it won't let me go lower than 10% of the "recommended" monthly DD.

Be daft if they don't allow it.

Ignore... I see the website now stating that the discount will come off the standard monthly DD automatically so, although it shows £80 for me, they will only take £14.

Surveyor · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:30

FBi7 said:
My combined gas/electric DD was £60something a month until my fixed rate ended last month. Now SP want £200+/month and they won't let me reduce that amout. We're (well I am, the 3 other ladies in my house, not so) always turning everything off when not in use, so I'm confident/hopeful I can get that down to sub-£200. Only gas we use is for the hot water, on for 30 mins/day with the occasional top up when the 3 wummin decide they all want baths.

Come winter, I'll have a better idea how I'm doing. My log burner does heat the whole house, but the Mrs won't use it, so when I'm at work, she'll stick the CH on.

I don't think I've had any formal communication from SP yet as to how the £400 rebate will be applied.

Based on your usage over the last 12 months perhaps £200 is the correct amount to cover your anticipated usage over the next 12 months.

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Richie · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:32

n111ck said:
Eon’s website now says ‘The new cap level does not apply to you right now if you are on a fixed-term tariff.’ Wtf?

You've confused Ofgem energy cap with the government Energy Price Guarantee.

If you are fixed, you do not benefit from the EC but still benefit from the EPG rates.

Sinbad2000 · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:39

bigmike20vt said:
so I have read conflicting bits and bobs. this £66 a month is it going directly on our energy accounts (sensible imo) or is it going into our bank accounts (not bothered either way but doesn't seem sensible imo)

To energy accounts but BG have told me they'll be processing a "refund" into my bank account.

jak731 · 18 Sep 2022 at 15:55

I have a spreadsheet for tracking energy cost/use (because of course). I'm only seeing a 5% increase based on the new rates for october, was expecting closer to 25%. Anyone else seeing similar? I'll be better off with the £400 discount over the winter vs the current rate, still more than a year ago though.

I use about 2500kWh elec and 12500kWh gas annually:

	Octopus Apr22	Octopus Oct22 (Gov support)
Electricity Standing Charge	£0.513555	£0.51000
Electricity Unit Charge	£0.284025	£0.33860
Gas Standing Charge	£0.272160	£0.26841
Gas Unit Charge	£0.074760	£0.10426
Electric:Gas cost	3.80	3.25
Annual Standing Charge	£286.7860	£284.1197
Typical Cost PA:	£1,931.35	£2,033.87
Typical Cost PM:	£160.95	£169.49

Zenduri · 18 Sep 2022 at 16:19

Richie said:
@Zenduri

What with the £66/month being paid to our Eon energy bills, will they allow me to drop my monthly payment by that amount once Oct hits?

Tried to just now but it won't let me go lower than 10% of the "recommended" monthly DD.

Be daft if they don't allow it.

Dont hold this as gospel but i think the last thing i read was your DD would be auto adjusted to account for the monthly £66/67 poyment. E.g If your DD is £100 then we would claim £34 via your DD and add a credit on the bill for £66

Sasahara · 18 Sep 2022 at 16:57

jak731 said:
I have a spreadsheet for tracking energy cost/use (because of course). I'm only seeing a 5% increase based on the new rates for october, was expecting closer to 25%. Anyone else seeing similar? I'll be better off with the £400 discount over the winter vs the current rate, still more than a year ago though.

I use about 2500kWh elec and 12500kWh gas annually:

Octopus Apr22 Octopus Oct22 (Gov support)
Electricity Standing Charge
£0.513555
£0.51000
Electricity Unit Charge
£0.284025
£0.33860
Gas Standing Charge
£0.272160
£0.26841
Gas Unit Charge
£0.074760
£0.10426
Electric:Gas cost
3.80
3.25
Annual Standing Charge
£286.7860
£284.1197
Typical Cost PA:
£1,931.35
£2,033.87
Typical Cost PM:
£160.95
£169.49

Think you've cocked something up in your spreadsheet. Your April 2022 is correct, but the Oct 22 should be £2432.37 PA, or £202.70 PM. You've applied the £400 discount on the Oct 22 already.

tlrBeta · 18 Sep 2022 at 17:12

Troop said:
we do this in the winter as the wood burner multifuel stove is on and we have a high celling in that room.
Airer is one of the ones(cast iron ends with slats of wood running through it to hang clothes) that you hoist up to the top of the celling.

Any recommendations on which to buy? Size etc

Zenduri · 18 Sep 2022 at 17:14

n111ck said:
Eon’s website now says ‘The new cap level does not apply to you right now if you are on a fixed-term tariff.’ Wtf?

Pretty sure someone has edited the page and ****** up hard with the edit.

This is the original blog post https://blog.eonnext.com/entries/98-New-government-energy-bills-scheme-announced

It seems like someone has half assed an edit on the price cap page and added the top two sections/paragraphs about the EPG But havent edited the rest of the document which related to the 26th August price cap announcement before the EPG announcement so they contradict each other now. I've jumped on my work laptop and left a slack message for a contact to get it updated

Troop · 18 Sep 2022 at 17:28

tlrBeta said:
Any recommendations on which to buy? Size etc

Take your pick, we use a 4 wooden rail version.

Look here, plenty of choice.

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tlrBeta · 18 Sep 2022 at 17:50

Troop said:
Take your pick, we use a 4 wooden rail version.

Look here, plenty of choice.

Traditional Kitchen Clothes Airer / Pulley | eBay

Find great deals on eBay for Traditional Kitchen Clothes Airer / Pulley . Shop with confidence.

www.ebay.co.uk

Quoted the wrong post, sorry!

I meant to quote which dehumidifier to buy

darael · 18 Sep 2022 at 18:43

jak731 said:
I have a spreadsheet for tracking energy cost/use (because of course). I'm only seeing a 5% increase based on the new rates for october, was expecting closer to 25%. Anyone else seeing similar? I'll be better off with the £400 discount over the winter vs the current rate, still more than a year ago though.

I use about 2500kWh elec and 12500kWh gas annually:

Octopus Apr22 Octopus Oct22 (Gov support)
Electricity Standing Charge
£0.513555
£0.51000
Electricity Unit Charge
£0.284025
£0.33860
Gas Standing Charge
£0.272160
£0.26841
Gas Unit Charge
£0.074760
£0.10426
Electric:Gas cost
3.80
3.25
Annual Standing Charge
£286.7860
£284.1197
Typical Cost PA:
£1,931.35
£2,033.87
Typical Cost PM:
£160.95
£169.49

Sasahara said:
Think you've cocked something up in your spreadsheet. Your April 2022 is correct, but the Oct 22 should be £2432.37 PA, or £202.70 PM. You've applied the £400 discount on the Oct 22 already.

I'm getting £2,433.87 per annum (Electric £1,032.65 / Gas £1,401.22), or £202.82 per calendar month. Personally, I'd set the direct debit to £210/pcm.

413x · 18 Sep 2022 at 19:22

ci_newman said:
My 4-bed with 2 adults, 2 kids is £66pm and we both WFH too. Assuming you have electric heating, elec showers or an EV or something?

66 a month??
My 3 bed with 2 adults only is 80 a month.

Edit.
I tell a lie. It's 50.just checked my bill!
40 for 24 days.
So about 50 for a month

Goodie · 18 Sep 2022 at 19:25

ci_newman said:
My 4-bed with 2 adults, 2 kids is £66pm and we both WFH too. Assuming you have electric heating, elec showers or an EV or something?

I’m not sure how that’s even possible, is that on a long-standing fix rather than the variable rate? And does that include SC?

Edit* I don’t mean that to come across as questioning if it’s the truth, I’m more envious