This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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PlacidCasual said:
I would have concerns that such permissiveness would lead to increased drug use. And although it may be safer many of these drugs are bad for you in life changing ways even without resorting to crime to support them. We used to see lots of rich people whose lives spiralled out of control whilst being able to afford to buy drugs. Is the risk of more addicts a net benefit, I genuinely don't know.

I work in heavy industry, by and large drug use is not a an issue, but would a permissive society put more people at risk from people working under the influence or even working in withdrawal?
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I'm not sure it would be any different to the number of people currently turning up to work or driving under the influence of the legal, easily available, addictive, and socially accepted drug commonly known as "alcohol". Yes it would happen, but I'd imagine the majority of people would be responsible enough not to do so (and those who aren't are unlikely to care if the drug is legal or not).
 
Police brutality.

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personally we should go down the route those defund the police nutters want, then time how long before they want them refunded :cry: :cry:
uk's number one will be anarchy in the uk:D
 
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MCFC_ANDY said:
i knew someone would bite :D
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Chris Wilson Lite.

the shadow said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Sussex Police PCSO refuses to attend assault just 200 yards away

Sussex Police are investigating a report of shoplifting and an alleged assault at the Co-op in Lancing on Thursday June 29. They are also investigating the actions of the officer in the video.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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This is absolutely appalling though, personal view, if you are not respnse or have any powers of arrest, you should not be in a marked police vehicle.
Then on top the whole conversation shows the problems with policing, scared of paperwork and scared of true confrontation.
 
Unbelievable situation.

Had a discussion about this country being third world rating - guess this just shows that it is another example of it.

Mob handed on protestors but don’t attend incidents that involves life and death.

There was no respect to police now there should be active abolishment of policing and think again what tax payer are paying for.
 
PCSOs have limited legal powers and a lesser training with regards to use of force, the job role, equipment and training is not geared up for dealing with violence or confrontation or making arrests, hardly a surprise when they subsequently want to stay out of harms way?

A response unit would never have refused to attend an incident like that, its literally the bread and butter sort of thing they attend day in day out.
 
Will said:
PCSOs have limited legal powers and a lesser training with regards to use of force, the job role, equipment and training is not geared up for dealing with violence or confrontation or making arrests, hardly a surprise when they subsequently want to stay out of harms way?

A response unit would never have refused to attend an incident like that, its literally the bread and butter sort of thing they attend day in day out.
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In my view, PCSO's should not be driving marked vehicles then.
Wont do the proper job? Well dont get all the benefits of said job then.
 
Will said:
PCSOs have limited legal powers and a lesser training with regards to use of force, the job role, equipment and training is not geared up for dealing with violence or confrontation or making arrests, hardly a surprise when they subsequently want to stay out of harms way?

A response unit would never have refused to attend an incident like that, its literally the bread and butter sort of thing they attend day in day out.
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perhaps but they should not be in a marked car or wearing a uniform then. Is this the fault of the person in the car? perhaps not though he hardly showered himself with glory. I would like to think if i had made the choice to do that job i would not sit by whilst someone was assaulted but OTOH people without the necessary training or skills should not be in that position.

so fault of the individual officer? the fault of the police as a whole......... or the fault of the government for underfunding the force so it is no longer fit for purpose?

i think there is enough blame for all 3 to share it to be honest.
 
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bigmike20vt said:
perhaps but they should not be in a marked car or wearing a uniform then. Is this the fault of the person in the car? perhaps not though he hardly showered himself with glory. I would like to think if i had made the choice to do that job i would not sit by whilst someone was assaulted but OTOH people without the necessary training or skills should not be in that position.

so fault of the individual officer? the fault of the police as a whole......... or the fault of the government for underfunding the force so it is no longer fit for purpose?

i think there is enough blame for all 3 to share it to be honest.
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fault of police force for allowing such individuals/department to be "officers" when they are far from it, but they'll get all benefits of being an officer with none of the risk.
 
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All the benefits of being an officer? Such as? The pay for a PCSO is way less for a start with limited opportunities for career progression or any specialisation.
 
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Will said:
All the benefits of being an officer? Such as? The pay for a PCSO is way less for a start with limited opportunities for career progression or any specialisation.
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ability to detain people and commit offences...
ability to commit offenses without real prosecution...
Blue light card...
Regular pay in a respectable job which naturally has its benefits and discounts...

As you just said, people don't go in to the job for the pay, they go in to it for the need to do good or benefits.
 
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