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Met officer pleads guilty to stealing from man who collapsed and died
PC Craig Carter told he faces prison for stealing about £115 from wallet received as evidence in 2022
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I'm sure some of the responses here would have been different if it had been an Asian officer stomping on a white persons head which is, well, a shame really.
Were they called over as "armed police" or called over as "police, who may or may not be armed".Exactly firearms officers are trained to react with lethal force if a situation escalates enough to warrant it.
This ‘situation’ had already gone way past the point that the standard airport police could handle.
Don't judge but there's a new article on the daily mail where GMP says there was a real risk of the officers who were knocked to the floor of losing their firearms.Could you provide a source on that please?
Don't judge but there's a new article on the daily mail where GMP says there was a real risk of the officers who were knocked to the floor of losing their firearms.
We're expecting supposedly highly trained professionals who have been given the right by the state to use force against the public to act within their training and be marginally better than a chucking out time brawler. AFAIK there is no force or training in the UK where kicking someone in the head, or stomping on their head is "acceptable" or "standard".Are we really expecting people to make the right decision 100% of the time, and the second they make an error of judgement they are sacked? Not a profession I'd want to be in!
An armed officer cannot ‘pop to the locker room’ and deposit his weapons before attending an emergency call.Were they called over as "armed police" or called over as "police, who may or may not be armed".
IIRC A lot of motoring officers in some forces are armed*, that doesn't mean that when you're pulled over for speeding or there is a major accident that the armed police are needed for their guns they're needed for their general policing actions.
100% this! It's about the situation and regardless of the previous situation that had happened there isn't a justification for the officers action in the video at that stage.We're expecting supposedly highly trained professionals who have been given the right by the state to use force against the public to act within their training and be marginally better than a chucking out time brawler. AFAIK there is no force or training in the UK where kicking someone in the head, or stomping on their head is "acceptable" or "standard".
This wasn't an extra punch when someone was down, or a single kick to the chest, it was sustained, aimed and deliberate, that is the sort of thing that whenever there is any question of "as the force reasonable" it tends to go against the person.
The weird thing is, I'm arguing that the level of force in this case seems to have been excessive, when I'm fairly sure in the past I've argued with some of the same people that an armed officer firing at someone was probably justified.
It absolutely does though. If there is credible reason to believe the suspect still presented a threat of serious injury or to life, despite appearing subdued, almost anything could be justified. Somewhat undone here by the conduct of the officer as if there was that kind of justification it would make securing the suspect a priority unless there was some other serious threat which didn't appear to be the case and their behaviour towards the second suspect.
Absolutely. On far more intelligent forums than GD there are those discussing if it would be ever appropriate to kick someone in the head, I would argue that yes, if he was not compliant and a danger, in the same way it’s acceptable to shoot someone in the head.
Even people at the top of their game make split second errors.We're expecting supposedly highly trained professionals who have been given the right by the state to use force against the public to act within their training and be marginally better than a chucking out time brawler. AFAIK there is no force or training in the UK where kicking someone in the head, or stomping on their head is "acceptable" or "standard".
This wasn't an extra punch when someone was down, or a single kick to the chest, it was sustained, aimed and deliberate, that is the sort of thing that whenever there is any question of "as the force reasonable" it tends to go against the person.
The weird thing is, I'm arguing that the level of force in this case seems to have been excessive, when I'm fairly sure in the past I've argued with some of the same people that an armed officer firing at someone was probably justified.
There are many many instances where a measured boot to the head has been used as part of neutralisation to dissuade a suspect from subsequent violent action - which might shock some posters here :s, in this instance it doesn't appear to be a measured response however.
Even people at the top of their game make split second errors.
Should he lose his job for this?
On far more intelligent forums than GD
Your question is lost on meWhy can no one on this board spell lose?
They're going rouge.Why can no one on this board spell lose?
Except that wasn't a split second error. It was multiple errors over a sustained period of time.Even people at the top of their game make split second errors.
Should he lose his job for this?
I think you mean it's loost on youYour question is lost on me