This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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JonRGV250 said:
What on gods green earth are you going on about?
Are you using some sort of Poundland ChatGPT to use for your answers?
The mind boggles at some of the nonsense you post on here.
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I don’t think the problems me my friend, I’ve got a degree in politics. I think it’s your reading comprehension. Sorry I’m posting at a level beyond your understanding.
 
arknor said:
They have to go into the city centre and stop to pick up food, it can't be that hard to inspect the bikes.

In Switzerland and Germany they do Random checkpoints sometimes even on normal bicycles to check they are safe for the road with good condition brakes etc

Then they post an article stating how many unsafe bicyles were taken off the road.

they just can't be bothered over here to enforce any laws and turn a blind eye.
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Just spoke to my local neighbour pcso. My force do all this and I’m happy that in my city that Uber riders are not a problem. Maybe try getting involved with your local politics to try and improve things if your area is so poorly managed?

Be the change you want to see.
 
hurfdurf said:
I think you’ve confused hard right with fascist.

“Heh, but they didn’t commit flagrant human rights abuses, just mini little ones, nor did they bomb brown religious buildings in their own country so they are hardly hard right” isn’t really the argument that the insanely hard right laws and capitalist robbery we saw weren’t hard right wing policies.
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You need to get out of your hard left bubble and have a lie down.

The last lot of Tories were useless at actually implementing anything vaguely right wing. They were mostly attacked for some of their 'right wing' talking points that rarely made it into actually policy in action...

For example, I think people forget how close 'New Labour', 1997 - 2010 were to recent Tory policy and rhetoric but lets remind ourselves...

Home Secretary Jack Straw stripped refugees of benefits and made them use vouchers to buy food

Liam Byrne retrospectively changed immigration rules to deport skilled migrants who did not meet new conditions that didn’t apply when they moved to the UK

Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith, banned unskilled immigrants from outside the EU, with a points-based Australian-style immigration system

David Blunkett introduced bill to ban asylum seekers’ children from attending state schools

Home Secretary, John Reid, spoke of "foreigners who come to this country illegitimately and steal our benefits"

Immigration minister, Liam Byrne, made employers check job applicants’ passports to make it harder for undocumented migrants to work

David Blunkett brought in bill to cut benefits for asylum seekers and then take their children away into care once they become destitute

Home Secretary, David Blunkett, banned asylum seekers from working while their claims were being assessed

...and he unveiled plans to force failed asylum to do unwaged work in exchange for “basic subsistence” if their claims were rejected

... and he wanted to send all asylum seekers to offshore processing centres outside Europe

Home Secretary, Ruth Kelly, told councils to stop translating things into other languages to make life more difficult for immigrants who didn’t speak English, as an ‘incentive’

Tony Blair set a target to cut the number of people applying for refugee status in Britain by 50%

Home Secretary, David Blunkett, told British Asians they should speak English in their own homes

Harriet Harman – Pushed through benefit cuts for single mothers in 1997 shortly after winning landslide, arguing they would help them back to work

Welfare secretary, James Purnell, forced single mothers of children as young as one year and people registered unfit for work to work on threat of losing benefits

Housing minister Caroline Flint unveiled plan to strip unemployed council tenants of their homes

The PM, Tony Blair, said that he would leave Britain with the most restrictive anti-trade union laws in the western world

Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, unveiled policy to ‘name and shame’ people given ASBOs, including children young as 10, through leafleting campaigns and passing their details on to the media

Health Secretary, John Reid, complained that there was a ‘culture of resistance’ in the NHS to privatising services after he was criticised by the British Medical Association for a botched contract

Home Office minister, Hazel Blears, said Muslims would have to accept the ‘reality’ that people ‘of Islamic appearance’ would be racially profiled by police for stop and search

Jack Straw told Muslim women to stop wearing veils

Labour introduced new police powers to stop and search people without suspicion, which led to a trembling in stop and search affecting Muslims in the UK

Health Secretary, Alan Milburn, said the NHS should set up a for-profit ‘NHS Plus’ paid-for health insurance top-up system

PM, Tony Blair, welcomed eleven private healthcare firms into the ‘NHS family’ and promised them a stronger foothold in the health service

The PM, Tony Blair, wanted to sell off more social housing by extending Right To Buy to housing associations, with the explicit political aim of reducing the difference between Labour and Tory policies

Education Secretary, Charles Clarke, said the state should not fund subjects like history and that ‘universities exist to enable the British economy’

Tony Blair blamed a spate of murders on ‘black’ culture that lacked ‘discipline’ and said people blaming poverty were being ‘politically correct’

Said they would cut 'deeper that Thatcher' in response to the financial crisis

But yet we are supposed to believe the Tories are 'hard/ far right'!
 
Can someone tell me what was the outcome of the guys attacking the police at Manchester airport?

It's being said they haven't been charged, that the case was dropped? Is this the case or was they bailed pending further enquiries?
 
hurfdurf said:

I’d speculate this group of disingenuous flag shagging idiot nonces contained some of the posters on here with the racist rhetoric about Muslims and what not but we all know that the kinds of people that post don’t actually do anything about what they complain about, plus their spellings probably a bit better than what that lot can manage.
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Yep. Heaps of Praise for the Emergency services yesterday and today a bunch of EDL cretins decide to descend on our fantastic Town and Riot.. At the same time a vigil with 1000's of people is being held in the town centre..
Some of my staff have got caught up in this on their way home after we closed early to pay or respects..

I dont often wish ill on those less fortunate. But I'm hoping they get theirs coming.....
 
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BowdonUK said:
Can someone tell me what was the outcome of the guys attacking the police at Manchester airport?

It's being said they haven't been charged, that the case was dropped? Is this the case or was they bailed pending further enquiries?
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GMP said there had been a "clear risk" the firearms officers could have had their weapons taken from them, and three officers had been taken to hospital, including a female officer whose nose was broken.
Four men, aged 19, 25, 28 and 31, were arrested in the aftermath on suspicion of affray and assault, and later bailed.
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The case hasn't been dropped according to whats been released, and with the second video there quite rightly should he a big uproar if they do try to drop it.

Like I said before I think the decision was to bail due to the wider public order concerns.

Wait for things to calm down and then charge. The police can't release video ahead of a trial in the UK where the participants can be identified and it would have been much more likely to kick off across the country if the males in the first video had been charged without the context of the second video.
 
Neil79 said:
Leeds Police forced to flee the scene due to rioters


Southport - Police send in the riot squad

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There is the distinction that in the second case the police were seeking to prevent the protestors attacking a venue.

In the first case the police pulled back as they has insufficient numbers to deal and their presence just made them a target in what was mostly the rioters own neighbourhoods.

In the second case the police removing themselves would lead to the mosque being exposes and likely attacked that would very likely lead to mass disorder elsewhere.
 
I love that video, it's so perfectly perfect, the only way to sprinkle additional awesomeness, is for the exact same thing to happen to each of the rioting crowd, bunch of EDL/TR oxygen ponces.
 
BowdonUK said:
Can someone tell me what was the outcome of the guys attacking the police at Manchester airport?

It's being said they haven't been charged, that the case was dropped? Is this the case or was they bailed pending further enquiries?
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It'll be the latter. Tories made cuts to CPS, so in the old days CPS would look at the case on the day of arrest. But there's not enough employed in the CPS to do this now. Which means most arrests have 'bail back' where you have to attend the police station monthly, for 3 months, and in the interim the CPS may or may not look at the case.

Really they should have been put on remand, ie in prison until their trial date. But we lack prison places
 
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