This is why people are losing respect for the police...

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Roar87 said:
I don't feel the UK Police should be tarnished because one guy who joined committed horrible crimes. It's not like you can realistically fire someone over unproven allegations or suspicion. This can happen in any profession, clearly there needs to be some improved processes and they need to figure out how they can handle these things better, but I'm sure everyone who works with him is absolutely horrified.
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No but the allegations should be investigated and weren't.
 
so protection command that cousin & carrick belonged to managed by
Protection Command Cmdr Helen Millichap
she hasn't been on the news/fired
 
kinetic747 said:
Sorry that isn't good enough. By the Mets own admission they're investigating over 1000 sexual and domestic abuse cases affecting over 800 officers. That isn't normal.
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So they're investigating presumably historic cases and accusations, what more do you want them to do? I understand you're angry that crimes have been committed, but that isn't the fault of anyone except the people who committed those crimes. I wouldn't want to be tarnished because someone at my company raped someone.
 
Roar87 said:
So they're investigating presumably historic cases and accusations, what more do you want them to do? I understand you're angry that crimes have been committed, but that isn't the fault of anyone except the people who committed those crimes. I wouldn't want to be tarnished because someone at my company raped someone.
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The Met themselves are apologising for not investigating accusations sooner against this latest animal, perhaps take it up with them.
 
Roar87 said:
So they're investigating presumably historic cases and accusations, what more do you want them to do? I understand you're angry that crimes have been committed, but that isn't the fault of anyone except the people who committed those crimes. I wouldn't want to be tarnished because someone at my company raped someone.
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It's literally the police's entire job to investigate crimes and they couldn't sniff out the people literally in their office? Pfft.

Systemic.
 
Try re-reading the comments about this guy, but instead replace him with a British Pakistani Muslim rapist.

The hypocrisy is hilarious, from both sides.
 
Horrible that this is, like Cousins, there is much more political capital gained on appearing in the press/social-media and expressing levels of indignation,
Do I think Sadiq is sincere - no ?
Saville was obviously another case where there were many missed signals, or the Yorkshire Ripper, both worse, so have to be careful not to get things out of proportion, and create undue alarm.
over xmas press were again reporting high level of needle spiking incidents, which still lack confirmed proof/prosecutions
 
jpaul said:
Horrible that this is, like Cousins, there is much more political capital gained on appearing in the press/social-media and expressing levels of indignation,
Do I think Sadiq is sincere - no ?
Saville was obviously another case where there were many missed signals, or the Yorkshire Ripper, both worse, so have to be careful not to get things out of proportion, and create undue alarm.
over xmas press were again reporting high level of needle spiking incidents, which still lack confirmed proof/prosecutions
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The yorkshire ripper and much of saville has at least the "save" of the fact the information about them was largely before the age of computers being used, which meant it was orders of magnitude harder to do a national check, let alone a thorough check of any allegations and linking them up as many records were only kept locally to the complaint so there was no pattern to see for people at the time. I think some people forget exactly how time consuming it was to do checks before computerised records* (the police used to employ multiple officers at larger stations purely to help maintain paper records and help other officers find information in them).

This case is an utter failure of the police to vet the candidate or take allegations seriously and it happening repeatedly not just once.
There is no excuse for an enhanced vetting, let alone the sort of vetting that is needed to be an armed officer or diplomatic protection to not pick up on properly recorded allegations.


*I'm old enough that I remember both the card index at the library (and the microfiche one), and how you often had to ask a librarian for help to find something if you were not sure, and then they put a couple of computer terminals that meant you could do it in seconds yourself, and that was for something relatively simple at a single site.
 
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