This is why people are losing respect for the police...
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Would the video have been allowed to be shown/available to the bail hearing judge?
This wasnt the context in which I replied originally.
"The Tennessee constitution allows a bail bond to be set in any crime except for one, and that's a capital offense. First-degree murder, second-degree murder, manslaughter, reckless homicide, criminally negligent homicide, they are all eligible for a bail bond."
Can You Get Bail for Murder?
The Tennessee constitution allows a bail bond to be set in any crime except for one, and that's a capital offense.
www.mckinneylawfirm.com
Edit: Also, probably best to use the other thread for this matter now? This thread isn't about a specific case.
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Good point, probably not though it's existence would more than likely have been mentioned.
Which is fair enough, but you can see it does extend to a general point.
It seems @Longbow has the answer though
"The Tennessee constitution allows a bail bond to be set in any crime except for one, and that's a capital offense. First-degree murder, second-degree murder, manslaughter, reckless homicide, criminally negligent homicide, they are all eligible for a bail bond."
Can You Get Bail for Murder?
The Tennessee constitution allows a bail bond to be set in any crime except for one, and that's a capital offense.www.mckinneylawfirm.com
Which is fair enough if that's their state law. I was looking up bail bond amounts, and theirs of $250 - $350,000 does seem the right amount for the charges.
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Did you watch the video or something else because I'm not quite sure how you can justify their actions as just getting "out of hand", put some white hoods on those cops and it wouldn't look out of place as a KKK lynching, but yeah, they just got "out of hand"
Did you watch the video or something else because I'm not quite sure how you can justify their actions as just getting "out of hand", put some white hoods on those cops and it wouldn't look out of place as a KKK lynching, but yeah, they just got "out of hand"
Reign the hyperbole in.
Ive genuinely seen much worse show up in my twitter feed.
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If it's just cops getting out of hand and you've seen worse on twitter (who hasn't?), you won't mind posting the video then
Although this should really be in the other thread specifically about the incident
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What on earth are you blabbering on about?
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Their presumed guilty or innocence has nothing to do with if they get granted bail or not. Holding someone on remand in custody is not a punishment, it's a necessity for the course of justice to take place for certain individuals. This is why reasons for bail are for things like:
- May fail to surrender to custody
- May interfere with witnesses
- May repeat offences whilst on bail
And the other ones are for public safety:
- May be otherwise so dangerous
Now, I'd imagine that the (ex) officers in question can be required to surrender their passports and there is little chance of them being able to go anywhere in America without being seen by public - so no issues with surrendering to custody. Unlikely to interfere with witnesses - they don't know who the witnesses are and a lot of the evidence comes from camera footage. And due to the unique way this offence was committed, it is unlikely that any of the individuals will commit any other offences on bail, and are now unlikely to be generally dangerous to other people.
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That it's not simply cops getting out of hand, I imagine if the video posted here, it would soon be moderated for being too much, hell most of the media have either blurred or cut out the beating, why ? Is it because it was more than cops simply getting out of hand and because it was a literal lynching under the guise of resisting arrest ? In comparison the GF incident was pretty tame in levels of cop violence
I'd have thought it was pretty self-explainatory and obvious to someone such as yourself.
If you think it looks "just like an arrest got out of hand" then you won't have any problem posting the videos here as there's no way that an "arrest which got out of hand" could be bad enough viewing that it would not be allowed on the forum...
How about you wind your damn neck in? You think you're the arbiter for everyone to decide what is and isnt acceptable police behaviour?
Just WOW.
So go on then, if it's such a "minor" thing that you've seen worse on twitter, post the videos for all to see, then they can make their own mind up and judge you accordingly.
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yea possibly, but not after seeing the cop take aim and kick him in the head. you'd know then, if you hadn't twigged before, that this was something else entirely.
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What are you blabbering about? A very odd stance to take and a disturbing personal twitter content to disclose.
I think my post is pretty clear. If people want to disagree then that is their prerogative.
As for the twitter content jab, just lol, if you follow things like Active Self Protection etc, then you get such content suggested to you of people being jumped 5-6-7 to 1 and getting absolutely kicked in.
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Are they police officers doing it ? If not then to coin your own phrase, what are you blabbering about ?
You guys are the ones getting all uppity about how bad the video is, I stated my opinion and clarified it, if youre unable to understand that then, whatever.
And your point literally makes no sense either, are you suggesting that some guy being beaten to death by one group of people is worse than a guy being beaten to death by a different group of people? Id love to see the mental gymnastics to make that work.
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Surely Kindai's point about the George Floyd murder being 'worse' than this on is a subjective opinion that's he's entitled to? Unless I've missed some previous posts?
My take on this one is that the police involved here are a bunch of animals. The guy definitely resisted the initial arrest but there was a complete lack of professional conduct by the cops, they could have easily taken him into custody if they had an ounce of brains between them. Punching a restained perp in the face 5 times, head kicking on the ground and unnecessary tazing is not how you go about arresting somebody. I don't think they intended murder but they acted no better than some mob of aggressive idiots trying to take someone down.
My take on this one is that the police involved here are a bunch of animals. The guy definitely resisted the initial arrest but there was a complete lack of professional conduct by the cops, they could have easily taken him into custody if they had an ounce of brains between them. Punching a restained perp in the face 5 times, head kicking on the ground and unnecessary tazing is not how you go about arresting somebody. I don't think they intended murder but they acted no better than some mob of aggressive idiots trying to take someone down.
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There are no degrees of ‘worse’ for the victim. Both lives are taken in an equally horrid and unjust way. But there’s some ‘worse’ about seeing a group of police officers beat a man to death as say a group of drunken yobs, imo.
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It's worse when cops do it because they're supposed to protect & serve, not that it's ok for thugs to do it, if we're going to dick wave on who's seen "worse" **** go watch funky town, the cartel vid where they literally flay a man alive not that it has any relevance to the discussion of what the cops did to Tyre so I'm not sure why you're trying to say what the cops did, isn't so bad because you've seen a completely different scenario unrelated where the only similarity is thugs beating someone.
The Tyre incident was worse than GF because the intent was to cause harm, GF was a massive oversight by the officers involved which IMO was manslaughter and not murder but the jury decided otherwise, although I can guarantee this case won't last as long as GF's did simply because it's a clear cut case of murder by battery, GF case was a lot of grey areas over whether they used excessive force, you can't say the police didn't use excessive force in this Tyre case, it's there to be seen as they literally beat him to a pulp, GF was some cops just excessively kneeling on him, not even in the same realm for comparison
That is a pretty special take you have there.
Yikes.
But you are entitled to your feelings and opinion, even if I think they are exceptionally wrong.
Yikes.
But you are entitled to your feelings and opinion, even if I think they are exceptionally wrong.
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