Typically its a 50/50 split in the states.
Today's mass shooting in the US
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Typically its a 50/50 split in the states.
I don't think its a case of control, its something that happened in another country..
Evidence please. I went looking for school shootings in Israel, and could only find 4 in the last 80 years, two of which were terrorist attacks.
Point 2 does not say teachers.
Why would you exclude suicide by firearm from firearm death statistics? That makes no sense at all.
Where does that say teachers? Ministry personel includes the guards that they employ.
"The guard must possess a valid license to carry guns issued by the Ministry of Public Security and the Israel Police."
It's actually quite dificult to get a gun license in Israel and self defense isn't considered a valid reason, private gun ownership in Israel is actually slightly lower than Ireland.
That means less than 7.3% of their population own a gun, including 40,000+ guards that also require the license.
Gun utopias? Firearm access and ownership in Israel and Switzerland - PMC
The 2011 attempted assassination of a US representative renewed the national gun control debate. Gun advocates claim that mass-casualty events are mitigated and deterred with three policies: (1) permissive gun laws, (2) widespread gun ownership, (3) ...
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Doesnt matter what you loon take on it is, firearms are ruining the US.
Not strictly true, there are many many gun owners that are responsible normal people, however, there are some that are idiots that ruin it for the rest...
This sums it up well.
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Not strictly true, there are many many gun owners that are responsible normal people, however, there are some that are idiots that ruin it for the rest...
This sums it up well.
BARE - The Constitution | Americans should start by reading a thesaurus. | By Jim Jefferies | Facebook
Americans should start by reading a thesaurus.
It's 100% true.
Because those suicides would be suicides by other means.
how do you know?
Except that the US, like most countries spends an absolute fortune on trying to prevent all of the above...Vehicles are heavily regulated and have an ever increasing number of safety features whilst the drivers have to prove they're able to operate at a minimum level of competency (with checks every few years), falls are investigated and things like building regulations changed to try and reduce them, poisonings lead to things like improved safety features on their containers, education about the risks and where possible alternatives found and the dangerous chemicals either withdrawn completely or heavily regulated to for example people with a licence and need for them.
The only one they don't seem to take any logical steps to prevent is gun deaths.
It took from memory one person tampering with medicine packaging as part of a blackmail attempt that killed a handful of people for the entire pharmaceutical industry to change it's packaging, it took a handful of cases of food being tampered with for the baby food and several other food industries to change all the packaging they used (in both instances to anti tamper/tamper evident designs)...
The reason you have those often awkward "press in and squeeze as you turn" type lids on bottles of tablets and cleaning products was because of an attempt to reduce the number of accidental poisonings by children.
As usual, unqualified rubbish...
In the real world, guns increase the risk of suicide.
Firearm Access is a Risk Factor for Suicide
Every study that has examined the issue to date has found that within the U.S., access to firearms is associated with increased suicide risk. Handgun ownership is associated with both elevated and enduring risk of suicide by firearm, with rates of…
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Not all, and possibly not even most of them.
Gun suicides are from what i've read more likely to be spur of the moment and far less likely to be survivable than most other methods of suicide (but if you do survive it's usually with horrific injuries/damage).
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Uh?
No. I've known too many people who have committed suicide - one a childhood friend - and not one of them used a gun.
Jumping off high bridges works far better than guns; hitting water from a sufficient height is much like hitting concrete. Your chances of surviving stepping out in front of a tube train depend not on luck but on which end of the platform you choose. Etc.
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16,604 so far this year. Last two years have been a fairly static 20k gun murders, 24k gun suicides.
All of which require far more effort than picking up the gun you, or a family member own...
There is also a fair bit of effort put into limiting access to most high places to prevent suicides (locks on roof doors, windows that only open so far without special tools), you can't easily gain access to many rail lines and with all the ones you mention you are basically somewhere that requires travel to reach and will likely have people around who will try and stop you. So again nowhere near as likely to be something you can do on the spur of the moment.
Grim.
Anecdotal evidence that people still commit suicide even without access to guns is not a counter point to the fact that people with guns are more likely to commit suicide.
Good, I never intended to. I simply pointed out that 36,000 deaths is nothing in the US, and gave some "death by accident" figures to show that.
I think it's a real problem (never said I didn't, again) but I did say that the US doesn't seem to treat it as a problem yet and seems to accept that level of deaths.