Today's mass shooting in the US

[StriderX]

"His mother said" Gotta keep that sweet sweet gofundme grift going.

"Life threatening" injuries and yet he's got a ****** little bandage around his head, no ventilator, nothing. Use your brain a little, I know it's hard.

Gotta respect the hustle though don't you?

 

[C Kent]

Gotta respect the hustle though don't you?

Indeed, if you can milk the gullible then go for it

 

[Werewolf]

You are aware are you not that you can have a critical injury but not need a ventilator? You have a ventilator if you have trouble breathing or there is a need to suppress your ability to breath naturally, they really don't like throwing you on one for the fun of it.

He was shot in the head, any penetrating head wound is likely to be critical because the chance of serious damage is high, and anything that damages the blood/brain barrier is inherently extremely serious as it means you have a massive chance of infection.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I seem to remember a number of years ago a British holidaymakers car broke down in Florida and they walked up to a front door to ask for assistance and were shot by the homeowner.

Struggling to find story, if I find I'll post.

If you are referring to the Andrew De Vries case which occurred in Houston, Texas, back in 1994, it was widely misrepresented by the British media.

Basically, he got very drunk during a night out, became paranoid that the friendly locals he was with (who were giving him a free ride back to his hotel) were going to kill him, got them to let him out of their car (by arguing and suddenly grabbing at the steering wheel), started wandering around a dangerous neighbourhood in downtown Houston (repeatedly hiding from people passing by on the street), tried to get help from a man in his home, but repeatedly hid from him after ringing his front door-bell when he answered the door, (making the homeowner think it was the prelude to a burglary/attack). He then jumped over the fence into the man's back garden and started banging aggressively on his glass back door. This was in the middle of the night in an area where there have been many "hot" burglaries (where armed men break into houses and rob the occupants at gun-point).

Not surprisingly, the homeowner reacted violently by firing through the glass back door at the unknown trespasser, but he clearly genuinely thought he was in danger. It was not a case of someone politely knocking on the front door to ask for help and when the door is answered being shot. The Houston Chronicle did a lot of reporting about the incident at the time because Brits are well liked in Texas so I got the full story from articles on their website. However, the BBC et al. never reported any of the details of the case at the time, so we in the UK received a misleading version of the story. A few bits and pieces of the full story appeared in other liberal US publications though:

...Mr. De Vries and a colleague, Sydney Graves, 42, had been befriended by a Houston couple during a night on the town and had gone to the couple's home, the police said. When the couple were driving the men back to their hotel, Mr. De Vries "began to think they were taking him in the wrong direction," said a police spokesman, Joe Gamino.

Mr. De Vries jumped out of the car and Mr. Graves followed. Mr. De Vries began to ring doorbells, searching for a phone the men could use to call a cab. After ringing the front doorbell twice at a home on Warrenton Drive, Mr. De Vries went into the backyard, the police said.

"The homeowner saw two men at his back fence," Mr. Gamino said. "He then saw one of the men climb over his fence and hit the back door." The homeowner, believing that his home was being invaded, fired a pistol three times through the door... Source

...According to police, De Vries rang Agee’s doorbell twice, hiding each time that Agee came to the door. He then jumped a back yard fence and banged on glass doors. Agee fired three times through the doors, hitting De Vries twice. Source

You have to bear in mind that in Texas and many other southern US states they have a law which states that a property owner can use deadly force against a trespasser who is on their property after dark (not just in their home, but on their land). What the homeowner did would not be legal in the UK but in Texas it was legal.

 

[C Kent]

You are aware are you not that you can have a critical injury but not need a ventilator? You have a ventilator if you have trouble breathing or there is a need to suppress your ability to breath naturally, they really don't like throwing you on one for the fun of it.

He was shot in the head, any penetrating head wound is likely to be critical because the chance of serious damage is high, and anything that damages the blood/brain barrier is inherently extremely serious as it means you have a massive chance of infection.

I would think if it's a serious head wound the bandage would be applied slighty better than some 5 year olds attempt, dont you.

 

[wesimmo]

I would think if it's a serious head wound the bandage would be applied slighty better than some 5 year olds attempt, dont you.

Just to be clear, you genuinely think that the police who have charged the guy who shot him, all the medical people involved in saving him and the President who called him are all in cahoots to 'grift' people?

 

[PlacidCasual]

@Maple Leaf It may be that case, it was some time ago. Certainly my recollection of what I read is quite different but if it was misrepresented by the UK press that would explain it.

 

[sidimmu]

"His mother said" Gotta keep that sweet sweet gofundme grift going.

"Life threatening" injuries and yet he's got a ****** little bandage around his head, no ventilator, nothing. Use your brain a little, I know it's hard.

What a scummy and disgusting take, shame on you.

 

[Werewolf]

I would think if it's a serious head wound the bandage would be applied slighty better than some 5 year olds attempt, dont you.

I would get out of the JCB before you go much lower.

That is a fairly normal looking dressing for something where the wound is likely to need checking on a regular basis.
What you see as "a five year old's attempt" is pretty much just there to hold the underlying pads and protection for the wound in place, it's not intended to be pretty but to do a job and part of that might be to offer some level of padding.
It's also not shown in that picture at what point that picture was taken, it could have been done by paramedics or in the ER before a better one was done, as the initial dressings are usually done to stabilise/stop further damage/stop foreign materials entering it.

 

[C Kent]

What a scummy and disgusting take, shame on you.

I couldn't care less what some anonymous forum user thinks.

That is a fairly normal looking dressing for something where the wound is likely to need checking on a regular basis.
What you see as "a five year old's attempt" is pretty much just there to hold the underlying pads and protection for the wound in place, it's not intended to be pretty but to do a job and part of that might be to offer some level of padding.
It's also not shown in that picture at what point that picture was taken, it could have been done by paramedics or in the ER before a better one was done, as the initial dressings are usually done to stabilise/stop further damage.

Life threatening injuries and yet the kid is home, walking around, and is fine? I've had more life threatening injuries after the last phaal I had disagreed with me.

 

[Zenduri]

I would think if it's a serious head wound the bandage would be applied slighty better than some 5 year olds attempt, dont you.

Serial bandage critic here as well as being a "c word"

From what ive read the bullet went into his head at the side of his temple and probably cracked or chipped his skull... which can be life threatening if he developed a brain bleed. He was fortunate enough to be shot with a .32 which is a smaller, lower powered round. As werewolf said you only need a ventilator if you have breathign issues, you can be in a bad way without one, which goes to show what kind of person you are.

He's only home because his mum is a nurse, his auntie is a physiotherapist and his uncle? is a doctor or something, so he has plenty of medically trained people around him to monitor him and look after him as well as dealing with his recovery.

Why the mods havent banned your goofy ass is beyond me.

 

[VincentHanna]

I couldn't care less what some anonymous forum user thinks.

Life threatening injuries and yet the kid is home, walking around, and is fine? I've had more life threatening injuries after the last phaal I had disagreed with me.

You can have life threatening injuries and recover quickly.

Source: https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesse...ies/head-and-neck-injuries/severe-head-injury

Treating a severe head injury​

Severe head injuries always require hospital treatment. This may involve:

• observing the condition for any changes
• running tests to check for further damage
• treating any other injuries
• breathing support (ventilation) or brain surgery

Most people are able to go home within 48 hours. However, a small number of those admitted to hospital require skull or brain surgery.

Again, when did you get your doctorate?

 

[wesimmo]

I'll bet his CV reads "School of Hard Knocks, University of Life"

 

[Tony Edwards]

Hustlers University.

 

[sidimmu]

I couldn't care less what some anonymous forum user thinks.

No **** sherlock, you dont give a **** about a 16 yr old child who has been shot by a racist by claiming his wounds may as well be a part of fiction.
Plus he may be home but no one has stated he is walking around "fine". Comparing it to a curry too, go join UKIP mate, I cant be racist, I eat hot curries.

Maybe instead of trying to act an internet hard man, you can show some humanity in the fact that still a child with innocent intentions has been shot in the head by an afraid cowardly POS.

 

[Dis86]

No **** sherlock, you dont give a **** about a 16 yr old child who has been shot by a racist by claiming his wounds may as well be a part of fiction.
Plus he may be home but no one has stated he is walking around "fine". Comparing it to a curry too, go join UKIP mate, I cant be racist, I eat hot curries.

Maybe instead of trying to act an internet hard man, you can show some humanity in the fact that still a child with innocent intentions has been shot in the head by an afraid cowardly POS.

What evidence is there that the guy is a racist? Tony, you logged in to your alt account again?

 

[Uther]

Is C Kent one of those American proud boy types?

 

[VincentHanna]

What evidence is there that the guy is a racist? Tony, you logged in to your alt account again?

A black child rang his doorbell and he decided an appropriate response was to shoot him?

And also because (quote):

A prosecutor said there was a "racial component" to the shooting.

 

[sidimmu]

What evidence is there that the guy is a racist? Tony, you logged in to your alt account again?

Its been stated in the reports he saw a young black kid and decided he was going to be robbed and shot him through a door....
Double edit: confirmed racial component in the news story - thanks Vincent!

Like it dont take a genius to work it out, stop being lazy.

 

[Dis86]

A black child rang his doorbell and he decided an appropriate response was to shoot him?

And also because (quote):

You're assuming his colour was anything to do with it. You're projecting your own racial prejudices.
Of course a prosecutor will say that, it's their job to try and get the guy locked away, much easier when you throw certain buzz words.
So, where's your evidence it was racial?