Today's mass shooting in the US

Its been stated in the reports he saw a young black kid and decided he was going to be robbed and shot him through a door....
Double edit: confirmed racial component in the news story - thanks Vincent!

Like it dont take a genius to work it out, stop being lazy.

That's not evidence. That's a statement of events.

The kid was black. Fact.
He thought he was going to be robbed. Possibly true.
He shot the kid because he was black. Evidence please.
 
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That's not evidence. That's a statement of events.

The kid was black. Fact.
He thought he was going to be robbed. Possibly true.
He shot the kid because he was black. Evidence please.
Well he has zero context of him being robbed nor any evidence to confirm this was the case, he did not engage in conversation and chose violence against a black child without context of what the kid was doing there.

Tell me how this does not appear to be racially motivated. Genuinely use your words and give me something substantial to work on.
 
Well he has zero context of him being robbed nor any evidence to confirm this was the case, he did not engage in conversation and chose violence against a black child without context of what the kid was doing there.

Tell me how this does not appear to be racially motivated. Genuinely use your words and give me something substantial to work on.

Just because a person is subject to a violent act by someone of a different skin colour, doesn't mean it has any racial context. There has been no evidence presented to show that was the case, a statement by a prosecutor, who is not impartial, is not evidence. Unlike you race grifters, I wait for actual evidence.
 
Just because a person is subject to a violent act by someone of a different skin colour, doesn't mean it has any racial context. There has been no evidence presented to show that was the case, a statement by a prosecutor, who is not impartial, is not evidence. Unlike you race grifters, I wait for actual evidence.
Like the guy about the attack on the dover immigration centre or whatever it was.
It wasnt racist as we had no proof it was a racist attack.
Why not try to apply logic and a bit of sense to something. Oh and not to mention, it was found out to be racially motivated, like this case will be once its gone through court system.

Racists hate racists being found out, so must defend them at all costs all!
 
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Like the guy about the attack on the dover immigration centre or whatever it was.
It wasnt racist as we had no proof it was a racist attack.
Why not try to apply logic and a bit of sense to something. Oh and not to mention, it was found out to be racially motivated, like this case will be once its gone through court system.

Racists hate racists being found out, so must defend them at all costs all!

Once it had gone through the court system and the facts established. Not beforehand.
Many people have been accused of things that are not true by ignorant bigots, like yourself. Wait for facts. Don't make assumptions.
 
Once it had gone through the court system and the facts established. Not beforehand.
Many people have been accused of things that are not true by ignorant bigots, like yourself. Wait for facts. Don't make assumptions.

Try applying logic and a bit of common sense, you'd be surprised how many times it works out correct.
 
Like the guy about the attack on the dover immigration centre or whatever it was.
It wasnt racist as we had no proof it was a racist attack.
Why not try to apply logic and a bit of sense to something. Oh and not to mention, it was found out to be racially motivated, like this case will be once its gone through court system.

Racists hate racists being found out, so must defend them at all costs all!
That thread sadly got deleted, but I remember it well.
 
You're assuming his colour was anything to do with it. You're projecting your own racial prejudices.
Of course a prosecutor will say that, it's their job to try and get the guy locked away, much easier when you throw certain buzz words.
So, where's your evidence it was racial?
The evidence is he saw black at the door and opened fire. You're dreaming if you think otherwise.

It's not a rare event in America and sadly like most he will get away with it using the self defence is the best defence.
 
The evidence is he saw black at the door and opened fire. You're dreaming if you think otherwise.

It's not a rare event in America and sadly like most he will get away with it using the self defence is the best defence.

Again, that doesn't mean he shot him because he was black. That's a sequence of events, not motive.
 
If you are referring to the Andrew De Vries case which occurred in Houston, Texas, back in 1994, it was widely misrepresented by the British media.

Basically, he got very drunk

But did he?

A post-mortem examination found Mr De Vries had not been intoxicated. Police have never revealed why the oil executive was at Mr Agee's house.

 
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No **** sherlock, you dont give a **** about a 16 yr old child who has been shot by a racist by claiming his wounds may as well be a part of fiction.
Oh look someone automatically jumps to 'but racism' just because the ethnicity of the parties involved is different, I'm shocked I tell you shocked.
Plus he may be home but no one has stated he is walking around "fine". Comparing it to a curry too, go join UKIP mate, I cant be racist, I eat hot curries.
Show me where I've stated anything racist, you cant though.
Maybe instead of trying to act an internet hard man, you can show some humanity in the fact that still a child with innocent intentions has been shot in the head by an afraid cowardly POS.
Kids are killed every day in the US by homicide, there's been 13 kids (thats under the age of 17 btw) killed in Chicago alone this year with another 71 injured. Why aren't you bleating on about them? Where's your phony outrage about those murders, or do you only care when it's 2 people of different skin colour that are involved?
The evidence is he saw black at the door and opened fire. You're dreaming if you think otherwise.
What evidence? All we have so far is he said/she said situation. Does innocent until proven guilty not apply to the ocuk leftist crowd?
 
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A black child rang his doorbell and he decided an appropriate response was to shoot him?

And also because (quote):A prosecutor said there was a "racial component" to the shooting.

How can the prosecutor say that when the two parties apparently didn't exchange words and there's not reporting to say there's any other statements made by the accused to suggest racial animus?

It seems awfully like the usual knee jerk reaction of a white person has shot a black person ergo it must be racism line..

Which is always interesting when you run the figures and work out that although murders and shooting are mostly inter racial for all groups in the US that blacks not only kill more whites as an absolute number than the other way around but also that when you run the figures on a per capita basis the 'average' black is twelve times more likely to murder the 'average' white person than the other way around and the inter racial violent crime rates between blacks and Asians in the US is around 280x greater for black on Asian crime than the reverse.

As of July of 2016 African Americans were the largest racial minority, amounting to an estimated 12.7%

In the same year the FBI figures for homicides nationwide shows that, where the race of the offender was known, this was the break down for homicides involving blacks and whites as either victims or perpetrators.


White victim total = 3,499

Pepetrator White = 2,854
Perpetrator Black = 533

Black or African American victim total = 2,870

Perpetrator White =243
Pepetrator Black = 2,570

So what can we glean from these figures?

For whites just over 81.5% of murders were committed by other whites

and just over 15. 2‰ were committed by blacks

For Black's
the figures were just over 8.46%
murded by whites


and over 89.5‰ for deaths at the hands of other blacks.

And let's look at the absolute figures..

Black's killed 533 whites when they made up 12.7‰ of the population

And whites killed 243 blacks when they made up 76.9‰ of the population

So not only did whites kill less blacks then the other way around in overall numbers they did so whilst having over six times as many people in the country!

So you could express the racial disparity in interracial homicides in the USA, on a per capita basis, between blacks and whites as being in the region of over a factor of twelve in favour of the blacks much more frequently being the perpetrators in interacial murders between the two groups (just over six times as many whites as blacks in total and in absolute figures blacks kill over twice as many whites as vice versa)

For the Black row, you’ll see that 10.6% of violent crimes against Blacks are committed by whites and 70.3% of crimes committed against Blacks are by Blacks. For the white row, likewise you’ll see that 15.3% of violent crimes against whites are committed by Blacks and 62.1% of crimes against whites are by whites. Dividing the 15.3% by 10.6% and the mathematical conclusion is that Blacks are ~50% more likely to commit crimes against whites than whites are to commit crimes against Blacks. This might come as a bit of a shocker to you, but I haven’t even gotten to the most ridiculous number yet.

In the Black row, less than 0.1% of violent crimes against Blacks were committed by Asians. In the Asian row you’ll see that 27.5% of violent crimes against Asians are committed by Blacks.

That’s a ~280x ratio — Blacks are 280x more likely to commit violent crimes against Asians than Asians are to commit crimes against Blacks.


 
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Kids are killed every day in the US by homicide, there's been 13 kids (thats under the age of 17 btw) killed in Chicago alone this year with another 71 injured. Why aren't you bleating on about them? Where's your phony outrage about those murders, or do you only care when it's 2 people of different skin colour that are involved?
I do care, I dont believe people should have access to guns, especially the type of firearms typically used in typical shootings across america, so not just your assault rifle types, theres simply no need for them.
Now without derailing this in to a whats wrong with Chicago thread, that area has some massively significant problems and crime and homicide would still be a thing, the numbers would be drastically different though.
 
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