When it was talked about it coming in it was a bit complicated and I didn't really want to be bothered with it.
Today's mass shooting in the US
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When it was talked about it coming in it was a bit complicated and I didn't really want to be bothered with it.
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Understandable, it is a bit of a faff, although its not that bad these days, all its trying to stop is people just wanting to buy something quickly for a bank robbery or somesuch.
Kinda ironic its harder to get a toy gun in the uk than a real one in 'murica
If youre owning it for emergencies you'd want the same platform everyone else has, including the police and military. For parts, ammo, familiarity, etc. There's a large number of military veterens who own guns and like the AR because they know it inside out already.
I wouldnt call them fancy they are ubiquitous.
Yeah :| saddens me that it wouldn't take much - just some common sense adjustments - to see a massive decline in incidents in the US - as per the video I posted earlier its feasible to own an AR-15 in the UK albeit in straight pull configuration yet we don't see incidents like the US. Even being relatively pro-gun I struggle to see the justification for semi-auto even in lower calibres outside of specific circumstances like those that live around dangerous wild animals, etc.
Honestly it's pointless talking about guns on this forum, because half of people talking **** about banning guns are simply not interested in firing or owning them therefore don't understand the enjoyment in owning them.
We have strict ownership laws here and they work which is why you don't see mass shootings. But don't kid yourself, if someone wanted to shoot something up a shotgun is more than up to the job.
As another side note, there are nearly or just over 400,000 legally held guns in Northern Ireland but yet no mass shootings (Outside the troubles of course!) and keep in mind NI has a pop of 1.8 million. That is a lot of guns!
We have strict ownership laws here and they work which is why you don't see mass shootings. But don't kid yourself, if someone wanted to shoot something up a shotgun is more than up to the job.
As another side note, there are nearly or just over 400,000 legally held guns in Northern Ireland but yet no mass shootings (Outside the troubles of course!) and keep in mind NI has a pop of 1.8 million. That is a lot of guns!
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For me its not about what's available, teaboy makes a fair point that the laws in northern ireland, its about how easy it is to obtain.
You dont need to ban guns of any type, just make it a massive hassle to obtain them and you'll cut out the vast majority of the idiots/mentally impaired/criminals/suicides whilst still allowing the law abiding enthusiasts their fun.
To my knowledge the vast number of firearms used in the troubles, etc. are/were not legally owned and not stolen legally owned but smuggled in from abroad, etc.
Many years back there was a garage raided near me with various pistol and even some ak47 type guns and something like 3000 rounds of ammo that were supposedly on their way to the IRA from like Denmark or Belgium or somewhere like that.
Of course they used illegal guns! Jesus I don't think I need to explain that.
My point was in context of the US situation (and not so much in reply to you) in that in respect to the troubles even a complete legal ban wouldn't have done much if anything there.
It does explicitly say "well regulated" though....
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I really have no ideas on how to stop these shootings but I am completely amazed that someone with a long history of mental illness can just walk into a gun shop and purchase such a devastating weapon. Truly bizarre.
So you wouldn't be willing to give up owning some aesthetically pleasing shiny, even if the price was a school full of dead children?
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Terrorist use vehicles to ram into people. Would you give up your car?
Lol digging up those old posts i see.
I actually belong to 3 different clubs/grounds for air rifles, clay pigeon shooting and firearms. You will never stop gun crime with legal or illegal firearms regardless of the law however the licensing system in the uk is very good and even now your GP has input to your suitability which is 100% correct in my opinion.
To put your 3 examples in context, in 2017 there was 155000 firearms cert holders excludimg sgc holders and they're responsible for 560000 guns in the UK. The 3 examples you gave, if all occuring in 2017, would equate to 0.002% of licensed ownership but they dont....the fact is they span 22 years! To me this shows a system that works.
Regarding stolen firearms, i dont have the figures to hand but again again the issue is very minor and can usually be put down to either carelessness by the firearm holder, Eg telling random people he has them or not locking them away properly. Also if you are careless and get them stolen then often your license is revoked.
You should never tarnish the UK with the failings of the US gun control system as they are entirely 2 different beasts.
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This will keep on happening until American change their gun laws 
They won't though....
They won't though....
Chance of getting an interesting response to such a retarded question is low....but ok.
No, because I need a car as performs several functions that are essential to life (in the US anyway), like getting to work, getting food etc etc.
I don't need guns, so I'm happy to not have them, if the price of having them is my kids being shot dead.
Just because terrorists use backpacks and pressure cookers to make bombs doesn't mean we should stop them from being on sale, don't be ******* stupid. They're taking items which have other functions and using them to kill, but a gun only has one function and here's a hint; you don't use it to cook a ******* meal or drive to work.
To paraphrase Jim Jeffries, There's one argument for owning guns, and it's not a very good one, "I like guns."
I also like the bit in his routine where he destroys the argument for guns being for self defence while at the same time being stored responsibly, the whole logic of that argument is retarded.
Or the bit where he goes on about people going to padlock conventions and buying Padlock Monthly.
I also like the bit in his routine where he destroys the argument for guns being for self defence while at the same time being stored responsibly, the whole logic of that argument is retarded.
Or the bit where he goes on about people going to padlock conventions and buying Padlock Monthly.
Theres only a certain number of times you can comment on these events - basically if they cant learn a lesson over these and do something to stop it (i.e gun laws) then I'm done with these types of events and commenting on how they need to sort it out. I pretty much agree with you all but Americans just have to accept that this is one of those risks you have to have if you live in the US because there is no interest in changing things
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Your PS4 could be used as a weapon. Do you need a PS4?
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