Uh, the Arab Spring is nothing to do with extremists being found out.
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Uh, the Arab Spring is nothing to do with extremists being found out.
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No mate, the oppression regimes have been using their version of islam to lock down their people and the people rose up and said enough is enough.
Most of these regimes are/were fairly moderate when it comes to Islam.
Wrong stop believing what the media want you too.Arab spring is moderates and secularists going up against muslims and hardcores.Why else do you think Obama has waded in to support his brotherhood? He offered them Sinai and apparantly channeled over 1 billion in funds to them.
And better yet he has been accused by the Egyptian goverment of being a Brotherhood member! Thats why he was itching to bomb assad.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...-obama-is-a-secret-muslim-brotherhood-member/
You really need to get a better education other than the BBC.
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Read what I wrote
I did but i was talking to the guy who said it werent? Did you see the Muslim brotherhood and Obama links though?
And if so what are your thoughts? The Sinai bit really blew my mind, if The brotherhood won and got Sinai it would leave the canal closed to America and pretty much crush its power in the middle east! If there is one thing a destroyer is vulnerable too it is a bunch of jhadi's at night in a boat packed with explosives coming down from Sinai to the canal.
And you can trail them all the way up from Somalia right into the MED.
Nothing you post makes any sense. Who do you think are the 'moderates and secularists'?
Why is Obama itching to bomb Syria because of something it is alleged and Egyptian said?
I love the term "wake up" used by so many, as it instantly points you out as a conspiracy theory lover and narrowed minded. Continuing to read posts by those people then serves to actually prove that opinion of them.
Some of the view points and hate in this thread are unbelievable. It's interesting how the disgust/hate that they feel for a particular sect of people is translated to abuse onto other posters who simply do not share the same opinion and therefore are considered the enemy.
The way I think of Islam in other countries, is that it's like we were some years ago, where the church wielded so much power, and abused that power for it's own benefit. The general populace is kept in check through fear and peer pressure to conform, or bad things might happen to you and your family. When it's brought over here, there is a clash with our more liberal modern culture, and so they are easy targets.
As for the EDL leader, really, I couldn't care less. Bunch of guys thinking they are being nationalists when in fact they are acting like thugs and trying to justify it. It is no better than football hooliganism. All they do is serve to polarise the issues rather than actually sorting them out.
Rofflay> Being from Ireland, I suspect you know what I mean when I say that kids feel pressured to go to mass with their folks, because the community is judging them. That's aside from the fact they live for drinking and clubbing on other nights, and basically just going as a token offering. That is how Islam works in this regard, and it's the peer pressure I'm referring to, except it is worse for them.
Some of the view points and hate in this thread are unbelievable. It's interesting how the disgust/hate that they feel for a particular sect of people is translated to abuse onto other posters who simply do not share the same opinion and therefore are considered the enemy.
The way I think of Islam in other countries, is that it's like we were some years ago, where the church wielded so much power, and abused that power for it's own benefit. The general populace is kept in check through fear and peer pressure to conform, or bad things might happen to you and your family. When it's brought over here, there is a clash with our more liberal modern culture, and so they are easy targets.
As for the EDL leader, really, I couldn't care less. Bunch of guys thinking they are being nationalists when in fact they are acting like thugs and trying to justify it. It is no better than football hooliganism. All they do is serve to polarise the issues rather than actually sorting them out.
Rofflay> Being from Ireland, I suspect you know what I mean when I say that kids feel pressured to go to mass with their folks, because the community is judging them. That's aside from the fact they live for drinking and clubbing on other nights, and basically just going as a token offering. That is how Islam works in this regard, and it's the peer pressure I'm referring to, except it is worse for them.
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Exactly my thinking
Apparently you must be extreme to be Muslim 
Let's completely ignore other denominations (if that's the term?) like Shia etc... as apparently they wouldn't be true Muslims?
The oppressive regimes are basically puppet dictators placed in power/supported by western governments / USA so as they can basically steal the countries oil and resources while greasing the palms of these horrific dictators 
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The U.S/West don't sincerely want true democracy in these countries as this would mean the end of cheap oil and resources for them.
lol, Paxman is soooooooo out of his depth here
.The U.S/West don't sincerely want true democracy in these countries as this would mean the end of cheap oil and resources for them.
lol, Paxman is soooooooo out of his depth here
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C.R.A.Z.Y is back !!!!
They are not classed as muslims by sunni either or alawite.And that is the view of extreme muslims that all others are non muslim.Where do you think this view came from then? It came from those who studied Islam the most, the scholars and grand imam's.
And to be honest im not sure what to make of muslims who are not extremist.Because the root belief is still the book and the book contains filfth and evil.So are they non muslims? Well considering the quran is so complicated it needs a scholar, and it was the scholars who declared the shia and alawites as non muslims then yes they are i guess non muslims.
You can argue until your blue in the face,call me a bigot or a racist but not once have i told lies in this thread.What i have said about Islam is all available on youtube if you search for it.As are the scholars and thier views on Islam in the west and those that live without sharia.I guess you lot all know more about Islam than the scholars who spent thier lives researching it?
Dont make me laugh
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The oppressive regimes are basically puppet dictators placed in power/supported by western governments / USA so as they can basically steal the countries oil and resources while greasing the palms of these horrific dictators
Hi,
Why are the 'West' supporting the rebels who are/were trying to overthrow these dictators?
Thanks.
The GIF thread better prepare itself!
Either through ignorance or conspiracy.Ironcially it was the BNP who stopped the upcoming invasion of Syria.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/news/national/did-nick-griffin-mep-really-stop-britain-bombing-syria-0
Is this true? There is a counter article on the BBC but obviously Nick saw the truth in that all those opposing Bashar al Assad were extremists and terrorists who wanted to kill the alawites and christians.As i said earlier Alawites are non muslims.There was a fatwa against them and since then they are not muslims according to the majority of Islam.
Now ask the important questions, Why was obama frothing at the mouth to bomb syria? Why did they help bring down gadaffi and why are they supporting the muslim brotherhood in Egypt?
And theres no conspiracy here?
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Thanks for clearing that up - so which muslims do you hate ?
This made my day! Do we have to stop importing the japanese ones too? by your earlier statement surely they alone can eradicate all racism!
And please, don't direct any hate my way, concentrate on your argument or you'll lose it.
On a serious note, I've noticed those most concerned about losing the British identity always fail to include it's language. I'm sorry but working in the education sector probably makes me over sensitive to it but surely before learning all of what youtube has to offer it's more important to get a firm grasp of grammar, punctuation and spelling, if only to keep it alive during times of national identity loss.
And before the usual rhetort of "omg wut, yeah man grammar police, ain't important man you're just ignoring the point am mekking", it is important and people will take you more seriously. Not too much but a little.
Continue. And have fun!