Tommy Robinson quits the EDL

Rofflay said:
They are not classed as muslims by sunni either or alawite.And that is the view of extreme muslims that all others are non muslim.Where do you think this view came from then? It came from those who studied Islam the most, the scholars and grand imam's.

And to be honest im not sure what to make of muslims who are not extremist.Because the root belief is still the book and the book contains filfth and evil.So are they non muslims? Well considering the quran is so complicated it needs a scholar, and it was the scholars who declared the shia and alawites as non muslims then yes they are i guess non muslims.


You can argue until your blue in the face,call me a bigot or a racist but not once have i told lies in this thread.What i have said about Islam is all available on youtube if you search for it.As are the scholars and thier views on Islam in the west and those that live without sharia.I guess you lot all know more about Islam than the scholars who spent thier lives researching it?
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Tell me which religion doesn't have scholars?

Interesting that your view point of Muslims is that the extreme dictate how the rest must act and are perceived. I'd be interested to know what your view point is on non-extreme Christians.

Have I called you names? I've been called a bigot on these very forums, and at least I can stand up like a man and acknowledge it was somewhat deserved.

Rofflay said:
Dont make me laugh
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Oooo.. edgy! :p
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
The oppressive regimes are basically puppet dictators placed in power/supported by western governments / USA so as they can basically steal the countries oil and resources while greasing the palms of these horrific dictators :mad:.
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Is this just the counter-conspiracy theory to Rofflay's belief?
 
Rofflay said:
No personal attacks, no swearing.

Gilly
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lol. Funny, was just about to quote him on that. The BNP claiming they stopped the invasion and what actually happened are two entirely different things. It's a common 'victory' advertising trick.

Have to wait until he's back until I can get an answer on his thoughts about non-extreme Christians :(
 
Gilly said:
It was nothing too extreme (lol) but he has previous for such behavior.
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Wake up sheeple! Gilly is trying to silence the truth :D ;)

It's great to have an opinion, but being aggressive to other posters just because others didn't agree is not on the cards. Would be nice to have him back in a calmer mood for the further discussion :)
 
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elmarko said:
To be fair, evidence exists to support that theory (notably released records of previous interventions & coups abroad which the west has admitted involvement in for those very reasons stated above).
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There may be some evidence and there may even be substance to the claims, that I don't deny. Having said that, unless I'm mistaken there are also reports and evidence to the contrary. That the rebels and up-risers have also had western backing.

The CT I was referring to was 'The West' as a unit backing the oppressive regimes in power in order to beat the people down and sell us their resources on the cheap.

Scougar said:
Wake up sheeple! Gilly is trying to silence the truth :D ;)
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Caught red handed :(
 
Gilly said:
There may be some evidence and there may even be substance to the claims, that I don't deny. Having said that, unless I'm mistaken there are also reports and evidence to the contrary. That the rebels and up-risers have also had western backing.
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Most certainly, backing from the east or west many of these factions will have.

I see not reason as to why China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, USA & the UK would not all get involved in issues related to high value natural resources or strategic locations globally.

It's protectionism due to the high stakes these nations have in securing the regions or resources in question.

We support terrorists when it suits us, then dispose of leaders (some of which are tyrannical, others democratically elected & wish to implement socialist welfare plans) if it suits whatever agenda is currently being promoted.

Gilly said:
The CT I was referring to was 'The West' as a unit backing the oppressive regimes in power in order to beat the people down and sell us their resources on the cheap.
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All wars tend to be over land & resources, political, military influence or self-defence.

I've yet to hear of a war done for any ethical reasons & self-defence doesn't apply to our recent interventions.

Anyway, I digress. :)
 
Rofflay said:
What i have said about Islam is all available on youtube if you search for it.
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I'm no Islam fan, but if you want to 'educate' people on the negatives of one of the world's biggest religions, you're going to need to educate yourself first. YouTube isn't going to cut it, frankly, it's pretty embarrassing.
 
Way to go , I guess banning people is one way to silence the opposition (freedom of speech my arse) and for what? I didn't see what Rofflay wrote but it's been stated it was nothing to extreme, I sense abuse of power, waits to get suspended.
 
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