Caporegime
lol wow...
Tower block fire - london
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Final death toll at 71.
So much rage on Twitter because it's not more, was 71 not enough ?
So much rage on Twitter because it's not more, was 71 not enough ?
Caporegime
Caporegime
Lily Allen going to apologise for spreading her nonsense about the death toll?
Have they identified all 71 though?
Yeah. There was an article earlier on the BBC. Was quite wrenching.
Did you consult a solicitor about that.
Having a leasehold of a flat in a building means you are not in fact king of your castle. Instead there's a landlord with power that trumps yours, exactly how will be set out in the contract.
Surely doesn't come into it. Either it's completely legal or it's not.
Lilly Allen and Several Labour MPs should apologize for spreading false information and inciting more anger for political gainsLily Allen going to apologise for spreading her nonsense about the death toll?
Have they identified all 71 though
Associate
In PMQ's this week, it was stated that some councils don't want sprinklers as their installation would reduce the fire compartmentalisation measures built into some of their flats, therefore making them MORE dangerous should a fire occur.
Apparently survivors were told they'd be rehoused within three weeks.
"All those who have lost their homes have been offered emergency hotel accommodation; and all will be offered rehousing within 3 weeks."
"When Grenfell was the top story on the news the PM promised to rehouse all Grenfell survivors within 3 weeks. Now that deadline has been extended to 12 months and many survivors will be spending Christmas in a B&B room this year."
"All those who have lost their homes have been offered emergency hotel accommodation; and all will be offered rehousing within 3 weeks."
"When Grenfell was the top story on the news the PM promised to rehouse all Grenfell survivors within 3 weeks. Now that deadline has been extended to 12 months and many survivors will be spending Christmas in a B&B room this year."
Associate
^^^ surprised that dozens of new homes can’t be found in one of the most desirable parts of the county to live. I’m sure when the promise of new accommodation was made they thought there would be some flexibility on the part of the residents but they want their million pound council houses back
Commissario
If the housing system can't find a couple of dozen suitable houses/flats within 6 months there is a real problem with the housing system.
The flats were not "million pound council houses", but a 70's tower block that happened to be in an area that had gone up in value (the blocks themselves hadn't gone up anything like as much), and the councils attempt to make it look nicer so it didn't affect the property prices in the surrounding area went wrong because it appears they went with a variant of the cladding that was more in the way of pretty than fire proof (from memory it's reckoned if they'd just gone with plain cladding rather than trying for a pretty pattern it would have saved a lot of money).
One of the biggest things in event of a tragedy is to have the support of friends and family, and to minimise the additional changes, I would suspect that forcing the families out of the area would be pretty bad for mental health in the long term, especially for the children who would most likely have to change schools (which in itself is highly disruptive for their education).
It would also utterly mess up the employment of a lot of them.
The fact they haven't been found homes is basically just one indication of how poorly provisioned council/social housing is in large parts of the country, as there are shortages of affordable housing all over as so much of the old council stock has been sold off with no replacements being commissioned.
Soldato
There was piece on Newsnight yesterday which said the council had found many of the properties initially required, but some of the former residence who had previously shared (extended family etc), had elected to be rehoused separately, increasing the required housing by 40%.
The amount of money allocated to rehouse each household was £1.7m iirc.
Caporegime
That's an insane amount. It would literally buy them mansions up here. Shows how councils couldn't run a ₩¥£€ up in a brewery though...
Can buy like a 16 bedroom house with nearly 7 acres of land around here :s - though its a bit odd as go much lower and the quality of property you get for the money goes down massively relatively speaking.
EDIT: Quite a nice 8 bedroom with 32 acres of land for 1.2m as well :O
I an sure I remember reading an article back in the day of the ILEA that its annual budget spend/child was getting on for Eton fees.
Nothing changes.
Grenfell Tower management company hands responsibility (temporarily) back to council.
The organisation that managed Grenfell Tower and manages thousands of other properties across the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea is temporarily handing back responsibility for them to the council, saying it can no longer guarantee to meet the standards expected by residents.
In a letter sent to residents just before Christmas, Fay Edwards, chair of Kensington & Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO), said: “The TMO board has reluctantly decided that it can no longer guarantee to fulfil its obligations with respect to the delivery of services contained in its contract with the council … to a standard that residents should expect.”
The organisation that managed Grenfell Tower and manages thousands of other properties across the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea is temporarily handing back responsibility for them to the council, saying it can no longer guarantee to meet the standards expected by residents.
In a letter sent to residents just before Christmas, Fay Edwards, chair of Kensington & Chelsea Tenant Management Organisation (KCTMO), said: “The TMO board has reluctantly decided that it can no longer guarantee to fulfil its obligations with respect to the delivery of services contained in its contract with the council … to a standard that residents should expect.”
Caporegime
Aye but I bet nobody is held accountable still!
Such a shock wasn't it
Smart(?) move on their part. Hand it all over to council, let council pay for it all & then take it all back?
