Tower block fire - london
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I suspect that at some point, with the risk of potentially killing firefighters trying to fight the fire if you ordered them to go further in, you would as the Senior Fire Officer on the scene have to call it a day. I know Firefighters do some amazing things and many of them have gone above and beyond the call of duty, but sometimes there is only so much that they can do. Very difficult decision and I suspect that some of the Fire Officers may have said 'Boss we can do this...' - very difficult call to make but you have to protect those Officers as much as the Public.
I've been to quite a few fires as a Police Officer over the years and take my hat off to the Fire service. The heat that comes off a major fire is astounding. In one incident 18 houses in a terraced street, together with a warehouse on the opposite side of the road were on fire - amazingly everyone was rescued but the fire, well it looked alive - frightening.
I hope that the public that helped, along with the Emergency Services personnel and the Doctors and Nurses who treated the injured are duly recognised with awards in due course.
Very very sad incident that should never have happened.
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Ignoring the "rent a mob" and outside of a small number who are just out to cause trouble, etc. I think the main bulk sounding off have a deeper anger and are waiting to see whether the authorities will make good on the sound bites, etc. if they continue to feel ignored and so on I think the mood will escalate.
EDIT: Sickening how much its being overtaken by political activists
EDIT: Sickening how much its being overtaken by political activists
Indeed, I had quite a heated debate with someone last night who wants May out, I don't particularly like her but those calling for her head are deluded and using this to vent their anger over the election result and DUP negotiations.
usually they are placed on the stairwells? where I live has some but its not highrise.
i'd hope they would atleast have had 1 for each floor seeing as they had no sprinklers
dunno, I don't think mine has though it is only 3 - 4 stories in my block and like 5 - 6 in the others, tis worth having your own plus a fire blanket in the kitchen
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what started the fire?
Don't think its been determined yet - some suggestions power surge + old fridge was where it started.
apparently a dodgy fridge
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Initial suggestion is make is irrelevant.
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It isn't if I got the same brand,
wonder if it was one of those bombs waiting to happen that got recalled years ago.
then maybe people can stop blaming the cladding and point the pitch forks elsewhere
Might end up it was something that should have been recalled, etc. but initial suggestion is that the combination of power power regulation in the tower and ageing fridge were likely the issue.
I'm not sure it would necessarily exclude the cladding, one may be the cause of the fire the other may be part of the reason why it wasn't contained for as long as expected and why so many died as a result (along with other factors like fire doors, alarms, sprinklers or lack thereof)
Revised death toll. At least 58 now missing and presumed dead
as much as they were getting flack for not releasing figures earlier the Police commander just said earlier that initially they had reports of potentially 400 people missing who might have been in the tower - better they get the facts confirmed before releasing things like this.. despite various idiots seeming to think it is a conspiracy etc..Regardless of the source of ignition the fire should have been contained much more within the initial flat and much longer and it definitely should not have been spreading up the outside in the way that can be seen in early footage.
The cladding could still be to blame for the fire spreading. No one is saying the cladding was the initial cause of the fire.
How will that exonerate the cladding? Fires happen in tower block flats fairly regularly, all over the country. Usually they are contained and don't burn the entire block down.