Tower block fire - london

StriderX · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:10

A fire was in the way?

Their suits arent meant to just willy nilly walk in fire.

Psycho Ned · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:14

Don't think it would have been possible even if such equipment was available, read somewhere that the fire was burning at 1000C the same temp as a crematorium oven you wouldn't have been able to get in from the outside.

dowie · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:14

Bassmansam said:
Why didn't the guy try to put out the initial fridge fire???

presumably he didn't keep a fire extinguisher in his flat/kitchen

according to some reports he also left the door open, which didn't exactly help with containing the blaze

Trusty · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:14

Phonesis said:
Absolutely. On a side note, can't believe this is still up on their website: http://www.harleyfacades.co.uk/page/grenfell-tower-626

True, contact them. Point out that you don't think it's suitable to have up any more. We can't know what's happening at the company but perhaps all their energy is going into understanding why this happened.

Trusty · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:15

Psycho Ned said:
read somewhere that the fire was burning at 1000C the same temp as a crematorium oven you wouldn't have been able to get in from the outside.

Phonesis · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:21

Psycho Ned said:
Don't think it would have been possible even if such equipment was available, read somewhere that the fire was burning at 1000C the same temp as a crematorium oven you wouldn't have been able to get in from the outside.

Let's just hope that smoke inhalation got to them before the flames. Truly horrific.

Craig1981 · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:22

Psycho Ned said:
Don't think it would have been possible even if such equipment was available, read somewhere that the fire was burning at 1000C the same temp as a crematorium oven you wouldn't have been able to get in from the outside.

Good god. No wonder there saying it might be impossible to identify all the victims. Can you imagine the condition of the corpses?

Actually no, I don't want to imagine

StriderX · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:24

I imagine the only way will be teeth sample, I'd hate to be the coroner asking people to give DNA to identify their relatives.

JohnnyG · 17 Jun 2017 at 13:34

Phonesis said:
Absolutely. On a side note, can't believe this is still up on their website: http://www.harleyfacades.co.uk/page/grenfell-tower-626

Some twitter loonies went absolutely ape **** when the Grenfell Tower page was unavailable on Rydon's website for about an hour, image the outrage if they took that down.

stewski · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:17

Perhaps anyone wanting to bemoan the bad luck of the socially awkward, hounded by the press leaders could get off this thread and add it to the Labour/conservatives where do we go from here threads?

Mr Jack · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:25

h4rm0ny said:
She would be attacked whenever she did it. Immediately that it happened she would be being opportunistic. Too late, she's only doing it because she was made to. Didn't show up she doesn't care. Does show up she's faking. She's a widely disliked Prime Minister. There is no scenario in this circumstance where she would not be attacked by people such as yourself. None.

Rubbish. While there's always the odd internet nobber who dismisses everything any politician does as cynical, most people recognise that it is a leader's duty to stand up in these circumstances. Had May gone quickly, met people, and spoken well she'd have come out of this looking good.

StriderX · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:28

I wonder though, ignoring everything else... the site itself?

Who'd want to live in the same space where 70 people (likely) died (horrifically)? It should probably just be turned into a memorial park with a stone engraved with names.

V F · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:33

StriderX said:
I wonder though, ignoring everything else... the site itself?

Who'd want to live in the same space where 70 people (likely) died (horrifically)? It should probably just be turned into a memorial park with a stone engraved with names.

I doubt that will be anytime soon? How long does it take to analyze the building before it is ready to be demolished. Though I'm curious how they'll be able to do it with all the other buildings around it without damaging any foundations...

dowie · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:39

V F said:
I doubt that will be anytime soon? How long does it take to analyze the building before it is ready to be demolished. Though I'm curious how they'll be able to do it with all the other buildings around it without damaging any foundations...

presumably floor by floor with cranes like various other tall buildings in built up areas

V F · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:46

Lots of space around the area?

dowie · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:49

V F said:
Lots of space around the area?

what do you mean?

Rroff · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:50

V F said:
I doubt that will be anytime soon? How long does it take to analyze the building before it is ready to be demolished. Though I'm curious how they'll be able to do it with all the other buildings around it without damaging any foundations...

Controlled demolitions of buildings like that are done without damaging other building's foundations and only a small chance of going wrong.

V F · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:52

dowie said:
what do you mean?

Lots of safe space for several cranes? The area didn't look that big from the glimpses I saw...

Trusty · 17 Jun 2017 at 14:54

Victims & victims relatives, support workers and community leaders have arrived at Downing St for a meeting with May apparently..

dowie · 17 Jun 2017 at 15:01

V F said:
Lots of safe space for several cranes? The area didn't look that big from the glimpses I saw...

Well I'm not claiming to be a crane expert but if they can be used to pull down buildings in the City of London I don't see why you couldn't use them there.