*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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Jenks, as with most players like him, at his age when you've barely played for a couple years he doesn't look anywhere near as sharp. He needs a couple months of starts just to have an idea of how good he is now when in form. He looked okay, with potential but not really a starter if you really want to win things.

Jenkinson is pretty much exactly what I'd expect from a young player signed from the lower leagues - generally OK, a willing runner who works hard but is occasionally naive and makes the odd mistake. He is an anachronism; the sort of signing you'd expect to see (and be more utilised) 20 years ago. In the modern era at a so-called big club he will be a backup player who will eventually get bored and leave in his mid-20s to try and forge a career at a team in the bottom half of the table.

His one chance will be if Sagna leaves and Arsenal don't bring in a relatively experienced replacement.
 
Spurs being link with Lallana.

As good as he is, we already have a very similar player in Siggy. Neither are fast, both have good feet without being exceptional dribblers, both get goals and can play passes.
 
Jenkinson is pretty much exactly what I'd expect from a young player signed from the lower leagues - generally OK, a willing runner who works hard but is occasionally naive and makes the odd mistake. He is an anachronism; the sort of signing you'd expect to see (and be more utilised) 20 years ago. In the modern era at a so-called big club he will be a backup player who will eventually get bored and leave in his mid-20s to try and forge a career at a team in the bottom half of the table.

His one chance will be if Sagna leaves and Arsenal don't bring in a relatively experienced replacement.

For me it's the in general 18-24 that a player gets really good or not. But the players that get really good have one thing in common, being played. If someone goes from playing multiple games, then join a new team and play a few games a year for a couple years they will firstly almost certainly look worse than they joined simply due to being not match fit or having any sort of form. They also miss out on the chance to really improve. It's desperately important that we should be rotating Jenks into the first team a hell of a lot but as per usual, we aren't.

One of the biggest reasons for our lack of youth development/players coming through is that our youngsters when they hit that age they need games, just do not get them.

Arsenal put a couple in to train with the first team, play them after 5 months when everyone is injured and the team sucks, and they do nothing, then they disappear, then get wages for 3-4 years, then finally leave the club having done nothing.

Jenks may/may not be good, unless he's given games we'll never know. Even at 28 unless he played a significant number of games between when he joined at say 24, he could be a completely different player than if he does nothing for 4 years, leaves, joins some lower league team and never develops.

The thing that gets to me is, we are preventing Jenks even having the chance to improve just to continually play Sagna who causes so many defensive problems its a joke. He's woeful defensively, same goes for Gibbs. Monreal was an older player and we should have bought a known decent player(I didn't see him much at all before we bought him). Unless we give him multiple starts in a row for a few months we'll never know what he can do with good form. He doesn't look anything special though which makes his purchase terrible, but giving Gibbs a new long term contract when he does get starts and still can't defend at all....

Fed up with getting in guys like Monreal/Jenks, and simply never giving them the chance. Can see both leaving having barely ever played, being judged on random one off games when out of form, and having been a complete waste to buy.

If Sagna/Gibbs were world class you can understand but still not forgive the lack of rotation and chances for the back up, but Sagna/Gibbs can't defend, are woeful and we still don't give the guys we bought and pay a chance.
 
Henderson has been one of Liverpool's most consistent players this season?

Yep. Lallana's very possibly a player we could be in for in the summer however he won't be a Gerrard replacement. He'd be somebody that could compete with Henderson, Allen and Coutinho in 1 of the positions ahead of Gerrard.
 
Our supposed current transfer situation at the moment then:

William Carvalho - highly rated young defensive midfielder - sounds like we're at the front of the queue - €45m~

Toni Kroos - future undecided - have offered him £260k a week (Guardian)

Marco Reus - apparently supports Man Utd - would no doubt offer him massive money

Luke Shaw - will definitely be in for him but Chelsea more likely

This is going to be a long summer.
 
I imagine Reus isn't attracted by money, if what reported is true and he's only on 35k then he's obviously enjoying Dortmund's title challenge and CL status, obviously thats over this season but it will be the same next season. I'm sure he will want CL over 250k which Man U would offer.
 
Our supposed current transfer situation at the moment then:

William Carvalho - highly rated young defensive midfielder - sounds like we're at the front of the queue - €45m~

Toni Kroos - future undecided - have offered him £260k a week (Guardian)

Marco Reus - apparently supports Man Utd - would no doubt offer him massive money

Luke Shaw - will definitely be in for him but Chelsea more likely

This is going to be a long summer.
Aren't some pundits, like Gary Neville, saying now that we're out of Europe for next season, we need to push on and get deals done and players signed sooner rather than later so we don't have a repeat of last summer's transfer activity. Possibly the World Cup doesn't help. If any of that lot have a good World Cup, we'd end up having to pay more.
 
I imagine Reus isn't attracted by money, if what reported is true and he's only on 35k then he's obviously enjoying Dortmund's title challenge and CL status, obviously thats over this season but it will be the same next season. I'm sure he will want CL over 250k which Man U would offer.

You really think someone on 35k would turn down the option to earn 250k?

I can understand that players do consider other things, such as the standard of football available, the living conditions of the country, etc - but even though Man U are a long way away from where they once were, if the numbers really are true, I think most players in that situation would be tempted.

Footballers are still people. Not many people would turn down the chance to earn literally millions of pounds more than they are currently on, even if they are getting paid well already.
 
You really think someone on 35k would turn down the option to earn 250k?

I can understand that players do consider other things, such as the standard of football available, the living conditions of the country, etc - but even though Man U are a long way away from where they once were, if the numbers really are true, I think most players in that situation would be tempted.

Footballers are still people. Not many people would turn down the chance to earn literally millions of pounds more than they are currently on, even if they are getting paid well already.

Other players have turned down big cash offers to move to other clubs. I'm not talking as in Man U being the only interested club but if he has a few options he would probably would go somewhere with CL football for 100-200k a week. Which is still ridiculous.
 
Other players have turned down big cash offers to move to other clubs. I'm not talking as in Man U being the only interested club but if he has a few options he would probably would go somewhere with CL football for 100-200k a week. Which is still ridiculous.

Footballers also have the sense to know one season means nothing.

Nothing in life is gaurenteed, but a more competetive league surrounded by world class players (and a lot of promising ones too if reports are to be believed) ,Utd have as good a chance as any to get back into the CL next season
 
Footballers also have the sense to know one season means nothing.

Nothing in life is gaurenteed, but a more competetive league surrounded by world class players (and a lot of promising ones too if reports are to be believed) ,Utd have as good a chance as any to get back into the CL next season

Why do they? Judging on this season they don't have as good a chance as any at all?

You also said they'd easily get 4th this season, Frank.
 
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