*Transfer Window 2014/15 Season Rumours/Signings *AKA Man U fans listing every player under the Sun

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FrankJH said:
Rumours starting today that Blind is on Barca's radar and would prefer them (1st time Ive even seen them mentioned in the same "breath") - given the huge rebuild Barca seem to want to do its not unexpected, although perhaps a little left-field (in experience terms if nothing else)

Personally I cant see any difference in the Utd need for a leading centre half and a decent box to box midfielder with a good /firm tackle - think both positions are vital.


As for Rooney being a dm, Im sure he could do it and it would certainly solve a few current problems, just not 100% sure Rooney would respond well to that positioning and even with RvP likely to be given the main striker role, I think it would be a waste of WR's talents further forward. Its also a bit of an un-necessary risk in a vital season



Very good call - and Vidal would also be a good attraction to the South American fans too (and Di Maria, although thats even less likely than Vidal)
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If you take LvG at his word then Di Maria sounds more of the player he is looking at given his age.

Lets face it, it's all smoke and mirrors and even if we agree a fee with

Club
Player
Agent

Nothing stopping any other club bidding more at the last minute. It's happened many times before and not only to Utd.

Still not convinced by Woody. All the public ******* contests about we can spend X, Y or Z means nothing unless you spend it
 
Why do people keep peddling Rooney moving into midfield, defensively he's meh, yeah he runs about a bit upfront and hassles players, that doesn't make him good defensively and playmaker... he's poor. He has poor vision, dodgy passing. up front him trying to thread a through ball is pretty laughable, from deep it's a joke.

I've said it for years, Rooney's strength is power, when he was really threatening to the opposition he would drive at them, pick up the ball and run with pace and power, much like Gerrard or Yaya, when they get going their size and bulk makes them crazy difficult to knock off the ball(Gerrard much less so in the past few years). Rooney used to be that guy, he didn't ever do turns and tricks to beat players, he was just a heavy set bloke who once he got going people bounced off him. Then he shot with power. He looks ineffective most of the time he isn't trying to use pace or power. Again the two times he looked remotely not awful in the world cup he was playing as a winger. The goal he set up he ran down the left wing and put in a great ball... he has a great cross. The goal he scored he arrived late on the far post, again something you expect of a wide player. Every time he tried to get on the ball and be a play maker, he was dreadful.

There isn't a chance a top manager would attempt to take the weakest and most useless part of his game and put him in a new position that focused on it.

LvG could push him wide in a 4-3-3. he could push RVP wide in a 4-3-3 and push Rooney upfront.

AS for Hummels over Vidal, wow. Jones and Smalling aren't great, but aren't terrible. I'd see how they progress under a new manager playing more games at CB and together, especially with a left back who knows how to defend in there. Central midfield Utd have had no strength or quality for 3 years, you could get the two best CB's in the world and the total lack of quality in midfield would prevent them winning any titles at all. Central mid is the most important area of every title winning team. Sort that first as a first priority.

Smalling/Jones might actually come good, Carrick is crap, has been crap and will never get better, you've bought one other central mid who has potential to be good, that's it. One potentially good central mid when you might often start 3 let alone two.

utd need another three central mids IMHO. A DM in particular, a box to box, and at minimum one more for cover/rotation with Carrick/Cleverley the 5th/6th choices behind the rest.
 
Loki said:
If you take LvG at his word then Di Maria sounds more of the player he is looking at given his age.

Lets face it, it's all smoke and mirrors and even if we agree a fee with

Club
Player
Agent

Nothing stopping any other club bidding more at the last minute. It's happened many times before and not only to Utd.

Still not convinced by Woody.
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Totally agree with you - I just cant see Di Maria coming to Utd over PSG currently.

Given what LvG was saying about Vidal at the World Cup I wouldnt say he isnt on a very short wish list of ideal players either.

How Woody pulled together both Herrera and Shaw has impressed me (especially the former) , after the disaster which was last summer - which was always going to be very difficult for the club. Im sure he will get better, but its true he does need to sign a really top player (or even a few top players over the next few summers) before he will be totally upto speed with what Gill did previously.

All the public ******* contests about we can spend X, Y or Z means nothing unless you spend it
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Spot on
 
Apparent worst case scenario, if we get:

Blind
De Vrij
Vermaelen

Will that get us top 4? I doubt it. It'd take a big (yet quite possible) collapse from Liverpool. These are all what you'd call 'cut price' players, we need a big player, no, two. Of course, there's the chance we get an LvG masterclass and get top 4, but with sub-par players that's a big ask.

The problem for me going forward as well is how we line up our attack, obviously RvP will be the central striker, yet Mata/Kagawa aren't comfortable out wide, and Rooney will probably be central. I can't see him playing deep in midfield. Januzaj has looked decent out wide so that might cover one position. Nani and Valencia can be okay at times but they are far from reliable, and the less said about Young the better. Perhaps Zaha could step up? Again, a big ask.

Of course, we might develop some super fluid system with everyone playing in different positions and interchanging, but that's tricky to say the least.

Regardless, you need a strong midfield and so far we have 1 natural and good (but not yet proven) midfielder in Herrera, Carrick is out for 3-4 months so we can't count him whether he's rated or not.
 
Robbo said:
Apparent worst case scenario, if we get:

Blind
De Vrij
Vermaelen

Will that get us top 4? I doubt it. It'd take a big (yet quite possible) collapse from Liverpool. These are all what you'd call 'cut price' players, we need a big player, no, two. Of course, there's the chance we get an LvG masterclass and get top 4, but with sub-par players that's a big ask.

The problem for me going forward as well is how we line up our attack, obviously RvP will be the central striker, yet Mata/Kagawa aren't comfortable out wide, and Rooney will probably be central. I can't see him playing deep in midfield. Januzaj has looked decent out wide so that might cover one position. Nani and Valencia can be okay at times but they are far from reliable, and the less said about Young the better. Perhaps Zaha could step up? Again, a big ask.

Of course, we might develop some super fluid system with everyone playing in different positions and interchanging, but that's tricky to say the least.

Regardless, you need a strong midfield and so far we have 1 natural and good (but not yet proven) midfielder in Herrera, Carrick is out for 3-4 months so we can't count him whether he's rated or not.
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I dont see our situation as being as dire as some people suggest.

Dont forget that two seasons ago we walked the league with the old guard most of which where on their last legs.

Yes you can argue that city threw it away but thats football, that can and will happen again.

I think the LVG factor will have more impact than a few people are speculating.
 
FrankJH said:
Dont worry Robbo

2nd midfielder is on the way in August

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/footbal...t-vidal-to-join-united-next-month_166474.html

(and just for the record, no I dont believe any old agent but after the media news that Liverpool are about to bid, anything like this is good news)
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The Liverpool thing is just a foreign paper rehashing the Mirror's article, there's nothing in it.

I saw those agent quotes (and they are legitimate) but I've no idea who he is or why he'd be aware of such a thing.

Vidal is back from his holiday on Friday so maybe we'll hear something from somewhere next week. At the least just a clear statement from Vidal totally ruling it out, or something. Still hope the English press are just being fed some rubbish (or info on our less important targets like De Vrij), and we're ready to do a deal for Vidal. It makes no sense to think we aren't in for him as everyone knows Juve will sell for the right price and Vidal would accept a large contract even without CL football.

Wayn0r said:
I dont see our situation as being as dire as some people suggest.

Dont forget that two seasons ago we walked the league with the old guard most of which where on their last legs.

Yes you can argue that city threw it away but thats football, that can and will happen again.

I think the LVG factor will have more impact than a few people are speculating.
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I don't think it's a dire situation, we've got plenty of talented players, but the top 4 is going to be ridiculously competitive. We keep hearing about all this money we can spend and records we might break, it's all just talk until we actually do it, and we need to.
 
TNA said:
Honestly that surprised me a lot. From what I saw I was hoping he would get a chance with the first team :(
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It's Arsenal, and I am mad, but not at all surprised. Almost any other club would be giving Eisfeld 3-4 sub appearances, a couple cup starts, maybe even a CL sub appearance if the group stage was sorted and there were spare games. If the player did really well like say Januzaj, then maybe they get more games.

Wenger has been awful with giving guys games. Even in terms of giving a guy games to get a better fee. Larsson has more than proved he could cope in this league and he's a pretty versatile player Arsenal could have done with over the past 5 years. But he left because we gave him no chances despite frequently looking better in preseason than other players. It happens over and over again. Eisfeld made some other guys look like a joke in preseason last year, showed some real genuine talent... then disappeared.

Vela, he scored 3 less but assisted 2 more than Sanchez last season, the season before that he outscored and out assisted Sanchez. Yes Vela played more games but in a significantly worse team. You see fans say Vela wasn't good enough but he got the equivalent of about 5 games playing time spread over 3 years. The few cup/cl games he got he was great with a great scoring record. he was excellent, and never given a chance. He looked good for West Brom on loan.

I genuinely don't know why we spend money on a youth setup. Coaches, facilities, games, wages, we have one of the biggest youth setups around and it produces nothing. Even Eisfeld we only bought him last freaking season, and he looked great, and we refused to use him and now he's off... wtf.

Just give it up, buy all our talent at 18-25(we do anyway) and save the probably 20-30mil a year the youth setup costs. Honestly what is the point, since Ashley Cole, Wilshire is maybe the only other player who spent more than 2 years in the youth setup and wasn't just bought at almost first team age.

Still find it truly hilarious that Wenger has this reputation for youth teams, bringing youngsters through. For a while there our youth team did great in the smaller cups... when did that stop 2004-5. Even then the players who went on good cup runs were left out of the final game or two and almost none featured in the first team in the future.
 
Totally agree

Its just been a little quiet (while everyone else has been strenghening in critical areas) in the last few weeks.


As we are now I think we will be better than we were under Moyes (just from the feel good factor of LvG) but not even close to being top 4.
 
TNA said:
Honestly that surprised me a lot. From what I saw I was hoping he would get a chance with the first team :(
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I agree, it was only a few seasons ago that Dortmund were saying he could potentially be as good as Goetze. He hasn't really had a fair chance and while I love Arteta and Rosicky they really should be shipped out to give some of our younger midfielders a chance.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
I agree, it was only a few seasons ago that Dortmund were saying he could potentially be as good as Goetze. He hasn't really had a fair chance and while I love Arteta and Rosicky they really should be shipped out to give some of our younger midfielders a chance.
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This is what I was saying about Rosicky, for Eisfeld(before he left) and Zelalem to have any chance of actually improving they need games. If when we play Norwich we're giving Rosicky or Diaby games, rather than players with the potential to help us win titles in the future, it's just a waste.

We just do nothing at all, they don't play enough to improve, or prove they are already good enough, or prove they'll never be good enough, or enough to sell for a few million. They just get wages to 22-23 often, barely play and leave having not been given any kind of real chance.

We needed to move on Diaby/Rosicky for years, with Sanchez bought it looks like Santi or Podolski will be off, if we bought a DM then we need to move on someone like Arteta. We've got 13-14 players across midfield and all of 3 realistic CB's of which one is always injured. Injury prone left backs who aren't actually good left backs. So much cover in midfield that we never get a chance to give our youngsters a game, and most of them dead end players who offer very very little to the team, yet no cover upfront and very little in defence.
 
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So how good is Eisfeld? Looks a likely replacement for Ruiz.

Fulham have also signed Adil Chihi on a free transfer as well (formerly Koln). That's 8 signings so far!

LB: Kostas Stafylidis (Bayer Leverkusen)
CB: Shaun Hutchinson (Motherwell)
RB: Kay Voser (Basel), Tim Hoogland (Schalke)
AM: Thomas Eisfeld (Arsenal)
RM: Adil Chihi (Koln)
CF: Ross McCormack (Leeds), Adam Taggart (Newcastle Jets)

Still probably a few players to leave and maybe one or two in.
 
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How many of these signings are for the first team? I thought Fulham would look to blood some of their youth team players this season considering how highly rated they are rather than splash the cash.
 
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